[Dixielandjazz] FW: Bands with CDs

[Patrick Ladd]

Re inserted applause. I was watching a stand up comic on TV the other night.Interspersed with the shots of the stage were pics of the audience laughing. Unforunately the audience shots did not synch with the jokes coming from the stage. Some jokes were OK, some were very funny. Unfortunately the laughter and applause did not differentiate so we had not very funny jokes followed by the audience crying with laughter and the same sort of applause following a very funny joke indeed. This totally spoiled the act and I eventually changes channels. Beware.
Pat 

From: Paul Kurtz Jr 
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 5:50 PM
To: Pat Ladd 
Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List 
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] FW: Bands with CDs

Jim, I, too, want to thank you for your inciteful presentation. I happen to like either live music or studio music and dislike the embedded applause and such. I consider the latter to be a bit hypocritical for people who just don’t want to take the trouble to record on location. 

I love the live stuff because it always brings me back to places I’ve either gone to listen to concerts or places I myself have played. I get that extra zip out of things. Yes, I know, and especially in older recordings, that some music may be partially lost, but I just try and listen harder. 

For newer groups, the live performances give me a preview of what I might hear if I go and listen to them. That’s useful to me. Again, the straight studio’s fine, too, but that live stuff has a movement to it. 
Paul Kurtz Jacksonville, FL
> On Jan 5, 2016, at 7:01 AM, Jim Kashishian <jim at kashprod.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks to those that liked my suggestions on live recordings.  Kevin tells
> me that he prefers a studio recording, which is fine.  Some musicians prefer
> the cleaness & tidyness of a studio recording, however, as I said before, I
> find the cd buyer at a gig prefers something live.  
> 
> Kevin mentioned that applause & background noise can be added to a studio
> recording, but it is not as easy as it sounds, and I would stay away from
> such antics.  I was required by a record company to do just that to half of
> a recording that was done in the studio (a rock band).  The rest of the
> recording was live.  To match the two ambiences took a lot of time & effort.
> My bill to the record company was well over $10,000, and I put in a note to
> them that if they heard what they were paying for, then I hadn't done my
> job!   :>  Cheeky, but true!  It had to sound just like a seamlessly live
> recording.
> 
> Some of my notes in my previous email will be useful even for a studio
> recording, such as time limits on a cd, the brochure suggestions, etc.  I
> would also include the necesity for mastering, where many small details can
> be attended to.  In a band effort, it is always best to have one (or 2 at
> the most) appointed members to make the decisions.  If you leave it up to
> the whole band to make decisions you may never, ever finish your recording!
> Have a plan of the tunes you want to do (with a couple of extras, just in
> case), and a plan on order of solos, etc., before going into the studio.  
> 
> If you go into a studio school setup, as you mentioned you might, Kevin, I
> would aim for the "let's set up just as though on a small stage".....all
> close together.  The studio guys will most likely want to get you separated
> into little sections blocked off by screens & using headphones.  Unless your
> guys are session musicians, they will find this a strange way to play, and
> you won't get the friendly atmo you get on gigs.
> 
> We even find that sitting close when on a large stage at big concerts is
> better for us.  We arrive at a big gig, and immediately have to pull
> everying from the far sides of the stage into the middle, where we can make
> believe we are in a small club.  I even suggest a nice carpet, and some
> living room lamps around the band many times.  Gives the intimate feeling
> for great playing.  Same thing goes in the studio.  The less cold &
> separated the better.  You can still boost a vocal, etc., in the mix even if
> there is some drums getting into the vocal mike, although the engineers will
> insist that you can't!
> 
> Good luck, Jim
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