[Dixielandjazz] Latin Influences on Early Jazz

domitype . domitype at gmail.com
Mon Nov 2 22:48:32 PST 2015


and speaking of Bert Thompson, I happened to cross this web page - don't
think I have seen it before!

http://www.new-orleans-delight.dk/2/Bert%20Thompson.html

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 8:58 PM, domitype . <domitype at gmail.com> wrote:

> For Scottish drumming, I have often played with Bert Thompson around the
> Bay Area. He played snare in pipe bands and his jazz drumming still
> incorporates some of that style.
>
> Dave Richoux
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Ken Mathieson <
> ken at kenmath.free-online.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Just a quickie with some responses to questions raised by listmates in
>> this interesting thread:
>>
>> Charlie asked about choro on Youtube: there's stacks of it there covering
>> all the eras. Chiquinha Gonzalez for the 19th century beginnings, Ernesto
>> Nazareth for the early 20th century, Pixinguinha for the 1920s to 40s,
>> Jacob do Bandolim for the 1950s & 60, Severino Araujo for big band choro,
>> Paulo Moura for contemporary recreations of choro from earlier eras, and
>> any number of recent choro players who have revived the tradition and are
>> writing new material.
>>
>> Dave wondered about the pronunciation of Pixinguinha and was close with
>> his 2nd option: it should peesh-een-geenya (the "n" sounds are nasalised
>> and the "g" is hard). If anyone is looking for translations or
>> pronunciations, just let me know: I lived in Brasil and speak Portuguese. I
>> also played in a night club in Sao Paulo and learned the hard way about the
>> difference between "gringo samba" and the real thing. Dave also gave a link
>> to a choro blogspot at http://choro-music.blogspot.com/  and that is a
>> fantastic resource for anyone interested in choro. It's also in English.
>>
>> I mentioned Martinique beguines as being similar to New Orleans Creole
>> music: Youtube has some great tracks by Ernest Leardee. Look for the items
>> with artwork of palm trees in a yellow square. They all feature 2 clarinets
>> plus rhythm and their improvisations remind me strongly of the playing of
>> Big Eye Louis Nelson and Alphonse Picou on the Kid Rena sides. Try Ce Filon
>> for starters, but they're all lovely tracks. If you want to hear the
>> beguine tradition at an earlier stage Youtube also has tracks by Alexandre
>> Stellio.
>>
>> For anyone wanting to hear what drummers get up to in Scottish Country
>> Dance Bands try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_TizUEE_aE and see if
>> you can see what Jake Hanna was getting at when he said he could hear lots
>> of this drumming in the playing of the early jazz drummers. It pushes the
>> music along and would swing if the heavy downbeats on piano and bass were
>> removed and replaced with a 4 feel.
>>
>> Right, enough already, I'm off to listen to some jazz now!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
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