[Dixielandjazz] Clifford Brown's artistry [?]

[Robert Ringwald]

Gary,

I hadn't heard of the "challenge by Miles in Vancouver."

Please tell us more.

-Bob Ringwald



-----Original Message----- 
From: Gary Lawrence Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 4:18 PM
To: Robert Ringwald
Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Clifford Brown's artistry [?]

there are only two types of music.  There's the music that you like,
and then there's the music that you yourself would play differently.

Wynton Marsalis posted today descriptions by his two companions at the
time of the infamous challenge of Miles Davis in Vancouver in 86' (?)
and while Wynton felt bad about it immediately after, I personally
think it needed to happen and Music only tempted Wynton with the side
wager winnings (that he refused to collect) because she wanted to slap
Miles for his behaviour, but, being Music, could not do it herself.
So she lured a young buck to do it for her.

What is 'jazz'?  Does it even matter.

Personally I don't think we should measure 'jazz' at the musician, I
think we should measure it by the audience; if there is a gleam and
dazzle of life in the audience that wasn't there before, if they can't
sit still or can only sit still rapt, then it's jazz.  All the rest is
noise.

On 4/28/15, Robert Ringwald <rsr at ringwald.com> wrote:
> Bill Haesler wrote:
>
> Charles Suhor wrote:
>>  Please listen to this stunning 4-minute track of Clifford playing "I
>> Can't Get Started." His virtuosity is at the service of melodic
>> invention...
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm9wHyy5cX0
>
> Dear Charlie,
> I did as you suggest.
> Thank you for the link.
> I also listened to Brown's 'interpretations' of "Memories Of You" and 
> "Smoke
>
> Gets In Your Eyes" on that same YouTube page.
> Mmmmm.
> Back in the late 1950s (about the time they were recorded) we kids used to
> say, "too many notes" when comparing those solos to 'our music'.
> Now listen to this version of "I Can't Get Started" to hear how the tune 
> can
>
> also be played.
>    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMh_1AFceMY
> I know which one I still prefer.
> Very kind regards.
> Bill.
>
>
> Which one?
>
> -Bob Ringwald
>
>
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