[Dixielandjazz] Tram [WARNING: SPF validation unavailable]

Hal Vickery hvickery_80 at msn.com
Mon Apr 27 05:01:51 PDT 2015


If we're talking about early musicians, you have to include Bechet with Armstrong.  I posted Bechet records from the '20s on a Facebook page I run last year, and to my ears he was every bit as inventive as Armstrong.
Hal Vickery

> From: Tim.Shaw at mh.org.au
> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 21:47:18 +1000
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> Django? Monk? Bechet - who was the only one equal to Louis in 1923 judging from Blue5 records
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> The only musician I can think of who was "as fertile or adventurous an improvisor as Bix" was Louis.  None other came within that bracket.  Any comparisons should be made with others, and that is another story altogether.
> Cheers
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> On 27 April 2015 at 02:44, Shaw, Tim <Tim.Shaw at mh.org.au<mailto:Tim.Shaw at mh.org.au>> wrote:
> - and a band composed entirely of "leading edge" creators would probably be too anarchic to organize  (think of eg when Ellington hired Mingus .. became one too many)
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> On Apr 26, 2015, at 4:52 PM, ROBERT R. CALDER wrote:
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> > To complain that Tram showed little evidence of that kind of invention is to forget the limits of opportunity, just as a lot of musicians who played solos that were long and not too long, tended to simplify in some aspects earlier conceptions of the instruments.
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> To state that Tram wasn't as fertile or adventurous an improvisor as Bix is not to "complain" about him or suggest that he wasn't an important figure in jazz history or to deny his (and others') expanding the roles of their instruments. I repeat (and it's only an opinion, of course): Tram wasn't as fertile or adventurous an improvisor as Bix. If every player had to be a Giant of Jazz, my record collection would be pared down to a few artists, if I could indeed identify the Giants. There's good stuff all around, but it's also useful to exchange ideas about the contributions of many jazz artists.
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> Charlie
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