[Dixielandjazz] Dixielandjazz Digest, Vol 143, Issue 35
ron fink
r.fink6 at verizon.net
Wed Nov 26 16:28:57 PST 2014
re: Ray Santisi
I played with him on the Ralph Marterie band back in 1960 on tour. Also, got to know Jimmy Zitano in Dallas when he was drumming with the Fairmont hotel house band. Funny dude. Great memories.
Ron Fink
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> 1. Pete Kelly' Blues (Walter Dunn)
> 2. Bing Crosby -- Tribune News Service, November 24, 2014
> (Robert Ringwald)
> 3. Re: Pete Kelly' Blues (Marek Boym)
> 4. Obituary: Ray Santisi, piano instructor at Berklee for 57
> years--Giacomo Gates and Bob Maksymkow respond (Norman Vickers)
> 5. Armstrong's hospitality--Jim Kashishian tells similar story
> about trumpeter Teddy Buckner (Norman Vickers)
> 6. Doug Ramsey's Rifftides blog -- Paul Desmond at 90
> (Norman Vickers)
> 7. Re: 50 Miles of Elbow Room -- probably not Buffum (Marek Boym)
> 8. Re: Obituary: Ray Santisi, piano instructor at Berklee for 57
> years--Giacomo Gates and Bob Maksymkow respond (Sep Troelstra)
> 9. Re: Cathcart on Welk (Charles Suhor)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 23:17:39 -0500
> From: "Walter Dunn" <waltdunn89 at hotmail.com>
> To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Pete Kelly' Blues
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> I?m glad to see the comments about the musicians rather than the actors. I think that Cathgart and Fatool were two of the most tasteful, yet dynamic players we?ve seen?ala Bobby Hackett, Walt Dunn
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 21:46:04 -0800
> From: "Robert Ringwald" <rsr at ringwald.com>
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Bing Crosby -- Tribune News Service,
> November 24, 2014
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> My grandmother loved Bing Crosby. She was very religious and thought that Crosby was a saint and that bad language would never pass his lips.
>
> So one of my uncles purchased a record that had reported to have been smuggled out of a recording studio. The song was ?Wrap Your Troubles In Dreams.? Bing is singing and then all of a sudden he sings,
>
> ?They left out 8 bars the dirty bastards.?
>
> My grandmother was devastated to find out that Bing would actually say ?bastards.?
>
> -Bob Ringwald
>
>
>
>
> ?Bing Crosby Remembered? Aims to Introduce Legend to Younger Generations
> by Luaine Lee
> Tribune News Service, November 24, 2014
> BEVERLY HILLS -- For more than 30 years Bing Crosby was the epitome of a multi-tasker.
> He was a giant in the music world, a radio icon, a movie star, a world famous golf
> enthusiast and a television tradition.
> Those over 40 probably know him for his evergreen Christmas movie, ?White Christmas?
> but little else. PBS? ?American Masters? hopes to change that with ?Bing Crosby Remembered,?
> a documentary by Robert Trachtenberg premiering Dec. 2 and encoring on Dec. 26 (check
> local listings).
> Old timers remember that Crosby also fathered two families: four boys with his first
> wife and two boys and a girl with his second. It was a shock when his oldest son,
> Gary, wrote a book about his youth and depicted his father as a cruel disciplinarian.
> But Crosby never held anything back from the public, insists Trachtenberg. ?In the
> mid-?50s, Bing says, ?I disciplined these boys.?... You have to put it into context
> of the time. Corporal punishment, spanking your kids was the norm. Bing says it in
> his autobiography. Bing says it in interviews throughout the ?50s. ?I disciplined
> the kids. Maybe I was too hard on them.? He?s completely transparent about it, so
> it?s interesting what the public chooses to remember and to forget and then remember
> again, because he never kept anything back.?
> His latter-day children, Harry, Nathaniel and Mary, all say he was a kind and loving
> parent. ?He was an unbelievable father for different reasons, but he really concentrated
> on us one-on-one,? says Nathaniel, who is a golfer.
> ?With Harry, it was hunting and taking him to the duck club on the weekends. With
> me we shared our love of sports together. We would have season tickets, to the 49er
> games at Candlestick, and he would wear the overcoat and the hat, and nobody -- except
> the people in the immediate section -- even knew who he was. He was very unassuming,
> and was concentrating on me during those games, unless he had to go down and sing
> the ?Star Spangled Banner,? which he did once,? recalls Nathaniel.
> Mary Crosby, best known as the actress who plugged J.R. on ?Dallas,? says he was
> a wise and gentle father. ?He actually gave me specific advice as a child... I was
> pretty young. I was maybe 8. And we were always included in adult functions. We were
> never, like, seen and not heard... And Dad said to me, he said, ?You know, you?re
> really smart, but if you talked less and listened more, you might be smarter.? And
> it was advice that I hold to this day.?
> His son, Harry, a guitarist and businessman, says his father would sneak him out
> of school on Fridays at noon so they could go duck hunting for the weekend. ?It was
> a special time, the age of 12, 13, to spend a good couple days with him, just father
> and son,? he says.
> ?We spent some time as a family, unique, couldn?t do it today, where we would go
> to Mexico where we kind of home-studied. Mom was a substitute teacher at our school,
> so we kind of got the free pass to go... We had to do the curriculum, but we spent
> two solid months together in Mexico where we all learned Spanish and got the chance
> to spend that time with Dad.?
> The mother of the three, the former Kathryn Grant, was a contract player at Paramount
> when they met. ?I was 18 years old. I was walking down to the drama department with
> a bunch of horsehair petticoats and my tennis racket, which had the brace on it,
> and I was just walking down the road, and I heard this voice behind me say, ?Hi,
> Tex. What?s your hurry??... He invited me for a cup of tea, and we went across the
> street to Lucy?s and had a cup of hot tea, which I thought was the most romantic
> thing that had ever happened to anybody.?
> She says dinner followed and the routine continued ?till I?d enjoyed about as much
> of that as I could stand.
> ?And then he said, ?How about dinner?? And I said, ?Thank you, no. I?ve been to dinner.?
> And then he wanted to visit with me again. I said, ?Thank you, no.? And then he talked
> to Aunt Mary, and then we flew to Las Vegas and we got married the next day. And
> the first time I spoke to him for the whole last year... before we married was ?I
> do.??
> Crosby and comedian Bob Hope were not only a riotous hit in their ?Road? pictures,
> they were close friends. ?When they would do the ?Road? movies, during lunch they
> would go to Lakeside and play golf,? says Mary Crosby. ?And the A.D. (assistant director)
> had to come retrieve them off the golf course to get them to go back to work. And
> so they were very, very dear friends. And the day Dad died was, as Mom says...?
> ?It was the only day Bob left a show,? recalls Kathryn Crosby. ?He was supposed to
> do a charity show in New York, and the word came through that Bing had died. And
> he just said, ?Get me out of here,? because it was the first time he had ever missed
> a show.?
> -30
>
> -Bob Ringwald
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> "Burt Reynolds once asked me out. I was in his room." -Phyllis Diller
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>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 15:06:59 +0200
> From: Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com>
> To: Walter Dunn <waltdunn89 at hotmail.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Pete Kelly' Blues
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> Nick Fatool is a well known name, but Cathart isn't very well known outside
> the jazz coterie, even that - mainly people who lived on the West Coast and
> heard local bands. And hardly over-recorded, and his participation in the
> Kings of Dixieland series didn't do too much to boost his reputation. I
> came to know him through the film, but even that - some years after I had
> seen it Although I loved the playing in the film, I did not remember the
> name of the excellent trumpeter.
> Cheers
>
> On 26 November 2014 at 06:17, Walter Dunn <waltdunn89 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I?m glad to see the comments about the musicians rather than the actors. I
>> think that Cathgart and Fatool were two of the most tasteful, yet dynamic
>> players we?ve seen?ala Bobby Hackett, Walt Dunn
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> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 09:46:41 -0600
> From: "Norman Vickers" <NVickers1 at cox.net>
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Obituary: Ray Santisi, piano instructor at
> Berklee for 57 years--Giacomo Gates and Bob Maksymkow respond
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> To: Musicians and Jazzfans list; DJML
>
> From: Norman Vickers, Jazz Society of Pensacola
>
>
>
> Yesterday, I sent out obituary piece on pianist/teacher Ray Santisi of Boston.
>
> Listmates Vocalist Giacomo Gates of Bridgeport, CT and saxophonist/teacher Bob Maksymkow of Pensacola respond.
>
>
>
> Thanks for Gates and Bob for your contributions.
>
>
>
> From: Giacomo Gates [mailto:giacomogates at hotmail.com]
>
> Subject: RE: Obituary: Ray Santisi, piano instructor at Berklee for 57 years
>
>
>
> Norm....
> Ray Santisi......
> Maybe 1992, I was fortunate to have sat in at Sculler's Jazz Club, in Boston. I was graciously invited by alto saxophonist, Richie Cole to sit in on his set. The rhythm section consisted of Ray Santisi, piano, John Lockwood, bass and Alan Dawson, drums.
> Needless to say, I was spoiled early by this world class rhythm section.....
> Tip of the hat, to Ray Santisi.
>
> Regards, Giacomo Gates
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Bob Maksymkow [mailto:saxmak at cox.net]
>
> Subject: Re: Obituary: Ray Santisi, piano instructor at Berklee for 57 years
>
>
>
> Norman:
>
> In the late 60s, I played a gig on the Tex Beneke band outside of Boston. It was a pickup group and a few of the Berklee faculty, including Herb Pomeroy, John LaPorta and Ray Santisi were in the band......quite a thrill for this young college guy.
>
> The other act on that show was Irish tenor, Dennis Day, who became known through the Jack Benny TV show. I remember that as Dennis sang one of his Irish ditties, Ray was comping behind him playing bebop lines.....probably the most inappropriate style that would've been chosen to accompany an Irish tenor. Everyone in the band was breaking up and I'll bet Dennis never even noticed. That had to be about 45 years ago.............Bob Maksymkow
>
>
>
> --End--
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 09:53:12 -0600
> From: "Norman Vickers" <NVickers1 at cox.net>
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Armstrong's hospitality--Jim Kashishian tells
> similar story about trumpeter Teddy Buckner
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> To: DJML and Musicians & Jazzfans list
>
> From: Norman Vickers, Jazz Society of Pensacola
>
>
>
> Our listmate, trombonist Jim Kashishian of Madrid, Spain related a similar
> hospitality story about Teddy Buckner.
>
> Thanks, Jim.
>
>
>
> From: Jim Kashishian [mailto:jim at kashprod.com]
>
> Subject: RE: Pensacola's Bob Maksymkow gives his version of Armstrong's
> hospitality
>
>
>
> I never had the chance to hear Louis in person, but the comments by others
> here remind me of the way trumpeter Teddy Buckner treated people in his
> audience. As you may know, Teddy was used a few times in films when (I
> guess) they couldn't afford Louis...as a sort of look-alike. Teddy's jolly
> stage presence was similar to Louis', and he was always gracious to anyone
> that tried to speak to him.
>
>
>
> For at least 2 years during my youth I went to the Beverly Caverns in Los
> Angeles to hear his band...sometimes 3 & 4 times a week!
>
> I noticed always, that he would collect all the right hands of everyone at a
> table in his hands & then shake them all at once! He never tried to rush
> off, and was always, always polite & happy.
>
>
>
> Once, at a concert honoring a recently passed musician, Teddy was playing on
> stage, and you could see the cable from an earpiece he had in his
> ear....baseball cap on his head. He was listening to a ball game while
> playing, but was as entertaining & charming as ever.
>
>
>
> I can imagine Louis doing something like that!
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 10:14:52 -0600
> From: "Norman Vickers" <NVickers1 at cox.net>
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Doug Ramsey's Rifftides blog -- Paul Desmond
> at 90
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> To: DJML and Musicians & Jazzfans list
>
> From: Norman Vickers, Jazz Society of Pensacola
>
>
>
> Here's a link to Doug Ramsey's Rifftides blog. Subject is Paul Desmond's
> last birthday/ Thanksgiving. Touching story with an eight minute video
> with MJQ. One may also subscribe.
>
>
>
> Also I'm sending my own personal Thanksgiving Greetings to friends on both
> lists. Wishing you all happiness, good health and other blessings. Thanks
> for your contributions and friendship.
>
> Norman
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.artsjournal.com/rifftides/2014/11/paul-desmond-at-90.html
>
>
> -End-
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 19:02:15 +0200
> From: Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com>
> To: Bill Haesler <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] 50 Miles of Elbow Room -- probably not
> Buffum
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> It is not the same version as Marek's "Live!" BASF LP>
>>
>
> Not by a long shot!
> Cheers!
>
>> ll.
>>
>>
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> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 19:56:10 +0100
> From: Sep Troelstra <stroelstra at gmail.com>
> To: Norman Vickers <NVickers1 at cox.net>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Obituary: Ray Santisi, piano instructor
> at Berklee for 57 years--Giacomo Gates and Bob Maksymkow respond
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> Ray Santisi plays the piano on the rare Donald Byrd Quartet LP (on the
> Transition label) "Byrd Blows On Beacan Hill" (May 7, 1956).
>
> From the booklet notes [Tom Wilson] of the Japanese CD:
>
> 'While in Boston [Cambridge] to record the album "Byrd's Eye View" with
> Art Blakey, Horace Silver, et al., in December of 1955, Byrd got his
> first opportunity to play with pianist Ray Santisi and drummer Jim
> Zitano. He dug. When we planned this date he requested that Ray and Jim
> 'make it.' Both of these fine musicians are endowed with a great sense
> of what is fitting, harmonious, and beautiful in jazz accompaniment. In
> combination with Doug Watkins, Santisi and Zitano form an urbanely
> ebullient rhythm section for the backing of Byrd's musings.'
>
> Sep Troelstra
>
>
> Norman Vickers schreef op 26-11-2014 16:46:
>> To: Musicians and Jazzfans list; DJML
>>
>> From: Norman Vickers, Jazz Society of Pensacola
>>
>>
>>
>> Yesterday, I sent out obituary piece on pianist/teacher Ray Santisi of Boston.
>>
>> Listmates Vocalist Giacomo Gates of Bridgeport, CT and saxophonist/teacher Bob Maksymkow of Pensacola respond.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for Gates and Bob for your contributions.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Giacomo Gates [mailto:giacomogates at hotmail.com]
>>
>> Subject: RE: Obituary: Ray Santisi, piano instructor at Berklee for 57 years
>>
>>
>>
>> Norm....
>> Ray Santisi......
>> Maybe 1992, I was fortunate to have sat in at Sculler's Jazz Club, in Boston. I was graciously invited by alto saxophonist, Richie Cole to sit in on his set. The rhythm section consisted of Ray Santisi, piano, John Lockwood, bass and Alan Dawson, drums.
>> Needless to say, I was spoiled early by this world class rhythm section.....
>> Tip of the hat, to Ray Santisi.
>>
>> Regards, Giacomo Gates
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Bob Maksymkow [mailto:saxmak at cox.net]
>>
>> Subject: Re: Obituary: Ray Santisi, piano instructor at Berklee for 57 years
>>
>>
>>
>> Norman:
>>
>> In the late 60s, I played a gig on the Tex Beneke band outside of Boston. It was a pickup group and a few of the Berklee faculty, including Herb Pomeroy, John LaPorta and Ray Santisi were in the band......quite a thrill for this young college guy.
>>
>> The other act on that show was Irish tenor, Dennis Day, who became known through the Jack Benny TV show. I remember that as Dennis sang one of his Irish ditties, Ray was comping behind him playing bebop lines.....probably the most inappropriate style that would've been chosen to accompany an Irish tenor. Everyone in the band was breaking up and I'll bet Dennis never even noticed. That had to be about 45 years ago.............Bob Maksymkow
>>
>>
>>
>> --End--
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 13:36:05 -0600
> From: Charles Suhor <csuhor at zebra.net>
> To: Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Cathcart on Welk
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> Dick Cathcart got several years of exposure to general audiences when he was featured on the Lawrence Welk show both as a Dixieland trumpeter and as part of a vocal group. There was something of a tradition by Welk of featuring a jazz instrumentalist after the success of Pete Fountain in 1957-59. I didn't follow it closely, but I recall that N.O. trumpet prodigy Warren Leuning followed Pete, though without gaining traction as a "star". As a kid Leuning sat in at the Sunday Partisian Room sessions with Tony Almerico. Like the young Connie Jones before him, his conception and drive surpassed Tony. Warren went on to have a fine career in versatile settings.
>
> It had long fashionable to dismiss Welk's music as cornball, Mickey Mouse. etc. I wouldn't pay dough to hear him, but in my view he always hired good players and the band was always precise and disciplined. When playing swing charts, it was kind of "Swing Era Lite." Pete played well with Welk but didn't have the space or context that he enjoyed with Dixieland bands or his later his quartet (with the brilliant Jack Sperling on drums).
>
> A little known remote N.O. connection with Welk. One of his featured vocalists, Andra Willis, married Larry Muhoberac. Larry was a boy genius--modernist on piano and trombone, played with Connie Jones as a kid, went with Woody Herman at age 18, etc. etc. I played some jam sessions with him at LSU when I was at Loyola. Cripes, what gifts! Anecdote: At a gig with a N.O. dance band, someone requested a song that wasn't in the book. During intermission Larry dashed off parts for the whole band, without a score. I was jealous of Larry, not because I was ridiculously out of his league as a musician but because he was adored by the girl is was mad about, pianist/vocalist Theresa Kelly. Larry continued to move in many circles and, I learned only in recent years, became Elvis' pianist for a while under an assumed name. Life's surprises and ironies, they just keep coming.
>
> Charlie
>
> On Nov 26, 2014, at 7:06 AM, Marek Boym wrote:
>
>> Nick Fatool is a well known name, but Cathart isn't very well known outside
>> the jazz coterie, even that - mainly people who lived on the West Coast and
>> heard local bands. And hardly over-recorded, and his participation in the
>> Kings of Dixieland series didn't do too much to boost his reputation. I
>> came to know him through the film, but even that - some years after I had
>> seen it Although I loved the playing in the film, I did not remember the
>> name of the excellent trumpeter.
>> Cheers
>
>
>
>
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