[Dixielandjazz] Dixielandjazz Digest, Vol 143, Issue 31
Walter Dunn
waltdunn89 at hotmail.com
Tue Nov 25 04:02:38 PST 2014
Re Pete Kelly's Blues and all the raves of Jack Webb, Peggy Lee ,et al--not
one word about Dick Cathgart and the marvelous musicians that made the
entire cast look good. Are we doing movie reviews now? Let's get back to the
music and musicians and leave the actors to the tabloids. Walt Dunn
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Today's Topics:
1. ?Pete Kelly?s Blues? reviewed - New York Times, November 23,
2014 (Robert Ringwald)
2. Peggy Lee - Los Angeles Times, November 23, 2014 (Robert Ringwald)
3. We Don't Serve Minors (Robert Ringwald)
4. Re: recent video & Battle of Bands (Marek Boym)
5. Brad Terry's Armstrong story (Norman Vickers)
6. 50 Miles of Elbow Room -- probably not Buffum (Dick Baker)
7. recent video & Battle of the Bands (Tito Martino)
8. Re: 50 Miles of Elbow Room -- probably not Buffum (Jim Hillesheim)
9. Re: 50 Miles of Elbow Room -- probably not Buffum (Joe Carbery)
10. Battle Of The Bands (Robert Ringwald)
11. Re: Battle Of The Bands (domitype .)
12. Tickets to Madrid (Jim Kashishian)
13. Re: 50 Miles of Elbow Room -- probably not Buffum (Marek Boym)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 13:40:34 -0800
From: "Robert Ringwald" <rsr at ringwald.com>
To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] ?Pete Kelly?s Blues? reviewed - New York
Times, November 23, 2014
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?Pete Kelly?s Blues?
by J. Hoberman
New York Times, November 23, 2014
In addition to his hyphenates, the writer-producer-director-actor Jack Webb
had two
alter egos, both of which he played on radio, television and the movie
screen. One
was the protagonist of ?Dragnet,? the laconic, no-nonsense, somewhat sour
Los Angeles
cop Sgt. Joe Friday, parodied for his insistence on ?the facts?; the other,
perhaps
dearer to Webb?s heart, was the laconic, no-nonsense and even more sour
Kansas City
jazz cornetist, Pete Kelly.
Adapted from a short-lived radio series, Webb?s most elaborate movie, ?Pete
Kelly?s
Blues? (1955), newly out on an excellently digitalized Blu-ray from Warner
Archive,
is a major artifact of the Dixieland revival. This wide-screen, Warnercolor
production
may be longer on ambition than style but it is bookended by two notable set
pieces
-- a traditional New Orleans jazz funeral with a tender regard for an
extended trumpet
solo and a many-vectored shootout beneath the mirrored ball of an empty
dance hall.
Such showmanship notwithstanding, ?Pete Kelly?s Blues? received some savage
pans
on its original release. Still, given that the tiresome narrative that pits
Webb?s
grim bandleader against Edmond O?Brien?s blustering gangster periodically
stops dead
to accommodate complete performances by a swinging Ella Fitzgerald and cool,
sultry
Peggy Lee (nominated for a best supporting actress Oscar), the movie has
carved out
a deserved niche among aficionados. The jazz critic Gary Giddins recently
characterized
the music as ?mostly superb.? ?Pete Kelly?s Blues? is credited with helping
to return
?Bye Bye Blackbird? to the jazz repertoire and, thanks to Fitzgerald?s
rendition,
making a hit of the even older chestnut ?Hard Hearted Hannah (The Vamp of
Savannah).?
Webb?s long takes and wide-screen mise-en-sc?ne have also been praised as
has his
propensity to cast against type. (The scary Lee Marvin is here as a
sweet-tempered
clarinetist; the amiable Andy Devine impersonates a tough cop; the nice girl
Janet
Leigh appears as a man-hungry flapper.) Webb himself plays a version of
Sergeant
Friday, glaring at the camera in frontal TV-style close-ups. He?s the
resident divo
-- however buttoned-up, continually irritated and apparently determined to
belie
the trailer included as an extra that hails him as ?Today?s Most Exciting
Entertainment
Personality.?
-30
-Bob Ringwald
Bob Ringwald Solo Piano, duo, Trio, Quartet
Fulton Street Jazz Band
916/ 806-9551
Amateur (ham) Radio K 6 Y B V
"Burt Reynolds once asked me out. I was in his room." -Phyllis Diller
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 13:42:52 -0800
From: "Robert Ringwald" <rsr at ringwald.com>
To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>, "Schulz Bob"
<bobsfriscojazzband at gmail.com>
Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Peggy Lee - Los Angeles Times, November 23,
2014
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Peggy Lee Seduced Millions With Her Sultry, Sophisticated Purr
by Susan King
Los Angeles Times, November 23, 2014
In 1957, singer Peggy Lee recorded the Jerome Kern-Oscar Hammerstein II tune
?The
Folks Who Live on the Hill.? Though others had performed the song too, Lee?s
soulful
interpretation of the dreamy lyrics connected with audiences.
?Someday we?ll build a home on a hilltop high
You and I, shiny and new
A cottage that two can fill
And we?ll be pleased to be called
?The folks who live on the hill.??
In real life, though, that happiness she sang about so beautifully eluded
her.
?Peggy had the four husbands and many lovers along the way,? said James
Gavin, author
of the new biography ?Is That All There Is? The Strange Life of Peggy Lee.?
But she was lonely. ??The Folks Who Live on the Hill? was not going to come
true
for her. She got the house on the hill, but she was living there by
herself,? Gavin
added.
Though her life was troubled, Lee became one of the most significant singers
and
songwriters of her time; 12 years after her death at age 81, her influence
is still
felt.
Lee, who developed her minimalist style as a singer with Benny Goodman in
the early
1940s, seduced listeners with her jazzy, sexually provocative
interpretations of
such hits as ?Why Don?t You Do Right?,? ?Manana (Is Soon Enough for Me),?
?I?m a
Woman? and ?Is That All There Is?? -- the latter two written by Jerry Leiber
and
Mike Stoller.
She began composing tunes in the 1940s with her first husband, guitarist
Dave Barbour,
who also worked for Goodman, including ?I Don?t Know Enough About You? and
?It?s
a Good Day.? Lee also co-wrote the songs and performed four roles in the
1955 Disney
hit ?Lady and the Tramp.? (Three decades later, she sued Disney over
royalties for
home video sales and won).
Though her acting projects were few and far between, Lee was nominated for
an Oscar
for her stunning performance in 1955?s ?Pete Kelly?s Blues? as an alcoholic
singer
who ends up in a mental institution.
Born Norma Deloris Egstrom in Jamestown, N.D., Lee was the seventh of eight
children
of an alcoholic station agent for the Midland Continental railroad and his
wife
When she was 4, her beloved mother died. ?Peggy had in her mind an image of
her mother
as this perfect, loving, all-embracing angel,? said Gavin, who also wrote
?Stormy
Weather: The Life of Lena Horne.? Gavin spoke about Lee in a recent joint
interview
with songwriter Stoller, who is featured prominently in the biography.
?The mother died, and her father married this big German battle-ax named
Min,? Gavin
added. ?Naturally, all the kids hated her. Peggy, for the rest of her life,
told
stories about Min?s physical abusiveness.?
Gavin believes Lee lived in a dream world she created as a small child to
deal with
her grief. ?She had a stunning ability to shut off reality and step into her
own
fantasy,? said Gavin. ?It got harder and harder and harder for her to pull
that off.
The first half of Peggy?s life, she drank a lot, and in the second half, she
was
addicted to Valium and other downers.?
Stoller, who first met Lee in 1962 after he and Leiber sent her a demo of
?I?m a
Woman,? recalled just how difficult the singer could be in recording
sessions.
?Our relationship ended a few times,? he said. ?Among other things, Peggy
worked
off anger. If she wasn?t angry, nothing was happening. During the process of
doing
the ?Mirrors? album, she early on forbid Jerry to be in the studio. She just
hated
him. Later on, it became me she needed to focus anger on.?
But Lee also had impeccable instincts, especially when it came to her
Grammy-winning
recording of ?Is That All There Is?,? which was released in 1969.
Capitol thought the song, which contained several dialogue sequences, would
tank.
?But Peggy?s beliefs in the song were just ironclad,? said Gavin.
When the recording company asked if she would be interested in appearing on
ABC?s
late-night ?The Joey Bishop Show,? she told Capitol, ?I have one record left
in the
can, but you don?t seem to want to release it,? recalled Stoller. ?If you
put it
out, I will do the show.?
Capitol pressed a meager 1,500 copies. ?She was on the show and then, as
they used
to say, telephones were ringing off the line,? recalled Stoller. ?They were
back-ordered
for weeks.?
Despite her personal demons, said Gavin, ?I still think of Peggy as
triumphant in
so many ways. People forgave Peggy Lee almost anything because she touched
their
hearts so much.?
-30
-Bob Ringwald
Bob Ringwald Solo Piano, duo, Trio, Quartet
Fulton Street Jazz Band
916/ 806-9551
Amateur (ham) Radio K 6 Y B V
"Burt Reynolds once asked me out. I was in his room." -Phyllis Diller
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 13:45:19 -0800
From: "Robert Ringwald" <rsr at ringwald.com>
To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] We Don't Serve Minors
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We Don't Serve Minors
A ?C,? an ?E-flat,? and a ?G? go into a bar. The bartender says: ?Sorry, but
we don?t
serve minors.?
So the E-flat leaves, and the C and the G have an open fifth between them.
After
a few drinks, the fifth is diminished and the G is out flat. An F comes in
and tries
to augment the situation, but is not sharp enough.
A D comes into the bar and heads straight for the bathroom saying, ?Excuse
me. I?ll
just be a second.?
Then an A comes into the bar, but the bartender is not convinced that this
relative
of C is not a minor.
Then the bartender notices a B-flat hiding at the end of the bar and
exclaims, ?Get
out now. You?re the seventh minor I?ve found in this bar tonight.?
The E-flat, not easily deflated, comes back to the bar the next night in a
3-piece
suit with nicely shined shoes. The bartender (who used to have a nice
corporate job
until his company downsized) says, ?You?re looking sharp tonight, come on
in! This
could be a major development.? This proves to be the case, as the E-flat
takes off
the suit, and everything else, and stands there au natural.
Eventually, the C sobers up, and realizes in horror that he?s under a rest.
The
C is brought to trial, is found guilty of contributing to the diminution of
a minor,
and is sentenced to 10 years of DS without Coda at an upscale correctional
facility.
On appeal, however, the C is found innocent of any wrongdoing, even
accidental,
and that all accusations to the contrary are bassless. The bartender
decides, however,
that since he?s only had tenor so patrons, with the sopranout in the
bathroom, and
everything has become alto much treble, he needs a rest, and closes the bar.
-Bob Ringwald
Bob Ringwald Solo Piano, duo, Trio, Quartet
Fulton Street Jazz Band
916/ 806-9551
Amateur (ham) Radio K 6 Y B V
"Burt Reynolds once asked me out. I was in his room." -Phyllis Diller
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 00:22:53 +0200
From: Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com>
To: Tito Martino <titomartino at gmail.com>
Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] recent video & Battle of Bands
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How lovely, Tito!
I am on the second video right now, and about to forward the stuff to my
jazz friends.
now this IS Brazilian jazz!
Cheers
On 24 November 2014 at 20:13, Tito Martino <titomartino at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Jim
>
> excelent! This is JAZZ as it should be playied and enjoyed!
> Congratulations
> !
>
> Now, you just enticed me and I will begin a "Battle of Bands" in the most
> holy tradition of New Orleans !
> These are two videos from a recent public Concert of my Tito Martino Jazz
> Band
>
> "I'M THE LOVIN' MAN"
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlzCnuufN6c&index=98&list=UUERnxOeFnpP_pXLJPA9jALQ
>
> "MUSKRAT RAMBLE"
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BI4SvEujGc&index=92&list=UUERnxOeFnpP_pXLJPA9jALQ
>
> I wish you like and I invite other Bands in DJML to join the fun !
>
> keep on swingin' !
>
> Tito
>
> --
> *Tito Martino Jazz Band*
> www.titomartinojazzband.com.br
> titomartino at gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 13:57:04 +0100
> > From: "Jim Kashishian" <jim at kashprod.com>
> > To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> > Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> > Subject: [Dixielandjazz] recent video
> > Message-ID: <EFFCA2E0DA414447B77A7E6A8A89A79F at JIM>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >
> > We recently were contracted to play a Saturday night gig at a new
> > restaurant
> > just outside Madrid. This video was taken there. Nice montage of
> various
> > songs. Great audience participation. We're back there two days after
> > Christmas.
> >
> > For those of you that haven't yet gone out and booked your flights to
> > Madrid
> > to hear us, this will serve as an appetizer. Jim
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=304514643085677&set=vb.288175238052951&
> > type=2&theater
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 16:26:29 -0600
From: "Norman Vickers" <NVickers1 at cox.net>
To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Brad Terry's Armstrong story
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To: Musicians and Jazzfans list & DJML
From: Norman Vickers, Jazz Society of Pensacola
Listmate Clarinetist Brad Terry of Bath, Maine tells this time, as a child,
attending concert with his parents hearing Armstrong and then Thelonious
Monk.
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From: Brad Terry [mailto:brad at triologyjazz.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 3:13 PM
To: Norman Vickers
Subject: Re: Bill Haesler's encounter with Louis Armstrong
Hi Nornmn,
Wouldn't you know I have a Louis story. . ..
This goes way back. . . . I was a kid, surely not driving and I think it was
my parents who took me to a concert some where in Westchester County to hear
Louis.
Looking back it was a very strange program... Louis did his thing and I sort
of grasped what the music was all about.. It might have been Joe Muraini and
I might have just started playing clarinet. .Louis was sipping something
from a big glass pitcher and mopping his brow constantly.
Anyway. . .
Making this strange..after intermission; Thelonious Monk...I had no clue
till years later what that was all about..
Monk came on stage and sat at the piano. His bass player came on stage,
looked over at Monk who played him an'A' to tune to. Then Monk stood up,
reached inside the piano, pulled out a big white bath towel and proceeded to
dry him self off all over like he had just stepped out of the shower...
Even then I understood how funny that was..
Never got closer than that to Louis but certainly, like anyone who blows air
through a horn was influenced by him.
brad
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 16:41:51 -0800
From: Dick Baker <djml at dickbaker.org>
To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] 50 Miles of Elbow Room -- probably not Buffum
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The story so far, as to the provenance of this tune, most famously
(for us) recorded by Turk Murphy:
Bill Haesler reported that it was first recorded by the Vaughan Happy
Two in 1930, but the seminal early recording was 1933 by Rev. F. W.
McGee -- and McGee copyrighted the song in 1933 and renewed that
copyright in 1960.
But more than a few reliable-looking sources claim that the song was
written by Herbert Buffum, a famous and prolific writer of gospel
music. At this point I picked up the cudgel and looked through all
the Buffum copyrights in the books from his first in 1910 until well
into the 1930s, several dozen in all. Nothing like "Fifty Miles of
Elbow Room" in that list, but there was one song that seemed to have
the same underlying theme, called "There'll Be Room Enough in
Heaven," from 1923.
Could McGee have sung Buffum's song with a different title, perhaps
based on a line from the lyrics? Well, there was, amazingly, a copy
of the published sheet on sale on amazon.com, so I just plunked down
my credit card and bought it. (10 cents in 1923; $10 in 2014--at
least the inflation rate is easy to calculate.) I've scanned it and
put it on my Stomp Off site for all to see:
http://stompoff.dickbaker.org/50miles/Buffum.pdf
Alas, it's a different song. Lyrics not even close, and while I
don't read music, I doesn't appear to me that Buffum's lyrics could
be sung to the same tune as the Carter Family's and Turk's:
First verse:
When our work on earth is ended, and we lay our burdens down,
And we answer to the final, solemn call;
When we go to meet the Saviour and receive the promised crown,
There'll be room enough in Heaven for us all.
Chorus
There'll be room enough in Heaven for us all,
For the wise and foolish, for the great and small;
When we safely make the landing,
There'll be no misunder standing,
There'll be room enough in heaven for us all.
Now what'll we work on?
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 00:32:17 -0200
From: Tito Martino <titomartino at gmail.com>
To: DJML <Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] recent video & Battle of the Bands
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Hi Jim
ha ha ha ..lol...
Bill Haesler wrote: "I've held off booking, as I am still waiting for the
tickets you promised me when you were here in Sydney earlier this year"
Jim, I want to see how you get off that... lol......
And Bill, just join the fun and enter a video of your band....
cheers to all
Tito
--
*Tito Martino Jazz Band*
www.titomartinojazzband.com.br
titomartino at gmail.com
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 21:28:06 -0600
From: Jim Hillesheim <jwh66047 at gmail.com>
To: Dick Baker <djml at dickbaker.org>
Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] 50 Miles of Elbow Room -- probably not
Buffum
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Is Turk?s recording of 50 Miles available out there somewhere, to hear/buy?
Jim Hillesheim
Lawrence, Kansas
> On Nov 24, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Dick Baker <djml at dickbaker.org> wrote:
>
> The story so far, as to the provenance of this tune, most famously (for
> us) recorded by Turk Murphy:
>
> Bill Haesler reported that it was first recorded by the Vaughan Happy Two
> in 1930, but the seminal early recording was 1933 by Rev. F. W. McGee --
> and McGee copyrighted the song in 1933 and renewed that copyright in 1960.
>
> But more than a few reliable-looking sources claim that the song was
> written by Herbert Buffum, a famous and prolific writer of gospel music.
> At this point I picked up the cudgel and looked through all the Buffum
> copyrights in the books from his first in 1910 until well into the 1930s,
> several dozen in all. Nothing like "Fifty Miles of Elbow Room" in that
> list, but there was one song that seemed to have the same underlying
> theme, called "There'll Be Room Enough in Heaven," from 1923.
>
> Could McGee have sung Buffum's song with a different title, perhaps based
> on a line from the lyrics? Well, there was, amazingly, a copy of the
> published sheet on sale on amazon.com, so I just plunked down my credit
> card and bought it. (10 cents in 1923; $10 in 2014--at least the
> inflation rate is easy to calculate.) I've scanned it and put it on my
> Stomp Off site for all to see:
>
> http://stompoff.dickbaker.org/50miles/Buffum.pdf
>
> Alas, it's a different song. Lyrics not even close, and while I don't
> read music, I doesn't appear to me that Buffum's lyrics could be sung to
> the same tune as the Carter Family's and Turk's:
>
> First verse:
> When our work on earth is ended, and we lay our burdens down,
> And we answer to the final, solemn call;
> When we go to meet the Saviour and receive the promised crown,
> There'll be room enough in Heaven for us all.
>
> Chorus
> There'll be room enough in Heaven for us all,
> For the wise and foolish, for the great and small;
> When we safely make the landing,
> There'll be no misunder standing,
> There'll be room enough in heaven for us all.
>
> Now what'll we work on?
>
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 17:11:41 +1300
From: Joe Carbery <joe.carbery at gmail.com>
To: Jim Hillesheim <jwh66047 at gmail.com>, Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
<dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
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Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] 50 Miles of Elbow Room -- probably not
Buffum
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P.S. The Firehouse Five Fakebook has the music on p. 166 and gives the
composer credit to a Rev. McGee.
Joe Carbery.
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Joe Carbery <joe.carbery at gmail.com> wrote:
> The Golden Gate Rhythm Machine and Turk Murphy are on YouTube playing it.
>
> Joe Carbery.
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Jim Hillesheim <jwh66047 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Is Turk?s recording of 50 Miles available out there somewhere, to
>> hear/buy?
>>
>> Jim Hillesheim
>> Lawrence, Kansas
>>
>> > On Nov 24, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Dick Baker <djml at dickbaker.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > The story so far, as to the provenance of this tune, most famously (for
>> us) recorded by Turk Murphy:
>> >
>> > Bill Haesler reported that it was first recorded by the Vaughan Happy
>> Two in 1930, but the seminal early recording was 1933 by Rev. F. W. McGee
>> -- and McGee copyrighted the song in 1933 and renewed that copyright in
>> 1960.
>> >
>> > But more than a few reliable-looking sources claim that the song was
>> written by Herbert Buffum, a famous and prolific writer of gospel music.
>> At this point I picked up the cudgel and looked through all the Buffum
>> copyrights in the books from his first in 1910 until well into the 1930s,
>> several dozen in all. Nothing like "Fifty Miles of Elbow Room" in that
>> list, but there was one song that seemed to have the same underlying
>> theme,
>> called "There'll Be Room Enough in Heaven," from 1923.
>> >
>> > Could McGee have sung Buffum's song with a different title, perhaps
>> based on a line from the lyrics? Well, there was, amazingly, a copy of
>> the
>> published sheet on sale on amazon.com, so I just plunked down my credit
>> card and bought it. (10 cents in 1923; $10 in 2014--at least the
>> inflation
>> rate is easy to calculate.) I've scanned it and put it on my Stomp Off
>> site for all to see:
>> >
>> > http://stompoff.dickbaker.org/50miles/Buffum.pdf
>> >
>> > Alas, it's a different song. Lyrics not even close, and while I don't
>> read music, I doesn't appear to me that Buffum's lyrics could be sung to
>> the same tune as the Carter Family's and Turk's:
>> >
>> > First verse:
>> > When our work on earth is ended, and we lay our burdens down,
>> > And we answer to the final, solemn call;
>> > When we go to meet the Saviour and receive the promised crown,
>> > There'll be room enough in Heaven for us all.
>> >
>> > Chorus
>> > There'll be room enough in Heaven for us all,
>> > For the wise and foolish, for the great and small;
>> > When we safely make the landing,
>> > There'll be no misunder standing,
>> > There'll be room enough in heaven for us all.
>> >
>> > Now what'll we work on?
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 22:01:55 -0800
From: "Robert Ringwald" <rsr at ringwald.com>
To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Battle Of The Bands
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Here is the Fulton Street Jazz Band playing ?Sing Sing Sing? at the Bohem
Jazz and Ragtime Festival in Kecskem?t, Hungary, Saturday March 31, 2007.
Bob Ringwald, piano leader
Bob Sakoi, trumpet
Paul Edgerton, reeds
Bob Williams, trombone
Darrell Fernandez, bass
Vince Bartels, drums
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP0wknBipTw
-Bob Ringwald
Bob Ringwald Solo Piano, duo, Trio, Quartet
Fulton Street Jazz Band
916/ 806-9551
Amateur (ham) Radio K 6 Y B V
"Burt Reynolds once asked me out. I was in his room." -Phyllis Diller
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 01:04:25 -0800
From: "domitype ." <domitype at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Battle Of The Bands
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That was fantastic! Great recording and well played.
Here is a slightly shorter version - recorded probably with a cell phone
or a small hand camera, on the beach at Waikiki (we were standing in the
sand as the waves eventually came in) 2007 by the California
Repercussions: http://youtu.be/hNaI-_8CqNs
Dave Richoux
On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Robert Ringwald <rsr at ringwald.com> wrote:
> Here is the Fulton Street Jazz Band playing ?Sing Sing Sing? at the Bohem
> Jazz and Ragtime Festival in Kecskem?t, Hungary, Saturday March 31, 2007.
>
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 11:10:09 +0100
From: "Jim Kashishian" <jim at kashprod.com>
To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
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Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Tickets to Madrid
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Bill Haesler wrote:
I've held off booking, as I am still waiting for the tickets you promised me
when you were here in Sydney earlier this year.
Me! Me promise YOU tickets? You're the guy that had a boat bring you under
the famous Sydney bridge from your waterside mansion to meet me at the docks
in Sydney Harbour! I'm surprised I haven't seen you here in Madrid already.
All you have to do is tell your pilots to bring you over.....
Jazz musicians....always moaning!
Jim
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 12:49:51 +0200
From: Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com>
To: Jim Hillesheim <jwh66047 at gmail.com>
Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] 50 Miles of Elbow Room -- probably not
Buffum
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Turk Murphy playing "50 Miles.." in 1974.
Cheers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Fmzz2IEIiJA#t=95
On 25 November 2014 at 05:28, Jim Hillesheim <jwh66047 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is Turk?s recording of 50 Miles available out there somewhere, to
> hear/buy?
>
> Jim Hillesheim
> Lawrence, Kansas
>
> > On Nov 24, 2014, at 6:41 PM, Dick Baker <djml at dickbaker.org> wrote:
> >
> > The story so far, as to the provenance of this tune, most famously (for
> us) recorded by Turk Murphy:
> >
> > Bill Haesler reported that it was first recorded by the Vaughan Happy
> Two in 1930, but the seminal early recording was 1933 by Rev. F. W. McGee
> -- and McGee copyrighted the song in 1933 and renewed that copyright in
> 1960.
> >
> > But more than a few reliable-looking sources claim that the song was
> written by Herbert Buffum, a famous and prolific writer of gospel music.
> At this point I picked up the cudgel and looked through all the Buffum
> copyrights in the books from his first in 1910 until well into the 1930s,
> several dozen in all. Nothing like "Fifty Miles of Elbow Room" in that
> list, but there was one song that seemed to have the same underlying
> theme,
> called "There'll Be Room Enough in Heaven," from 1923.
> >
> > Could McGee have sung Buffum's song with a different title, perhaps
> based on a line from the lyrics? Well, there was, amazingly, a copy of
> the
> published sheet on sale on amazon.com, so I just plunked down my credit
> card and bought it. (10 cents in 1923; $10 in 2014--at least the
> inflation
> rate is easy to calculate.) I've scanned it and put it on my Stomp Off
> site for all to see:
> >
> > http://stompoff.dickbaker.org/50miles/Buffum.pdf
> >
> > Alas, it's a different song. Lyrics not even close, and while I don't
> read music, I doesn't appear to me that Buffum's lyrics could be sung to
> the same tune as the Carter Family's and Turk's:
> >
> > First verse:
> > When our work on earth is ended, and we lay our burdens down,
> > And we answer to the final, solemn call;
> > When we go to meet the Saviour and receive the promised crown,
> > There'll be room enough in Heaven for us all.
> >
> > Chorus
> > There'll be room enough in Heaven for us all,
> > For the wise and foolish, for the great and small;
> > When we safely make the landing,
> > There'll be no misunder standing,
> > There'll be room enough in heaven for us all.
> >
> > Now what'll we work on?
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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