[Dixielandjazz] Fwd: Basie white men

[Richard Broadie]

Just glancing at the list after being about 20,000 messages behind.  Glad to 
see Nat Pierce mentioned in the context of Basie.  Bill Berry played trumpet 
with Basie for a while. An excellent "white" player who played WITH Basie. 
Nat of course did copious amounts of arranging and playing with Woody Herman 
for many years. He and his wife, Kathy Sweeney (a singer) were close friends 
for many years. Nat loved Basie but frequently claimed that his Basie-like 
style was as much of his creation as it was of respectful imitation of the 
Count.
For the old gang:  I'm still alive and well in Palm Springs where I've been 
hosting a weekly jam session for more than 20 years. Wish I had time to join 
the fray but at 74 am working more as a musician and writer than ever. If 
I'd worked this hard when I was younger, I would have wealthier than Bill 
Gates.
Anyone remember Melodious Thunk?  Those were the days!  If you'd like to say 
"hello" please send emails directly to me at rbroadie at dc.rr.com.  I don't 
know when I'll next peed at the list.  Hope it's soon. I sure miss our 
annual reunions at Sweet & Hot festivals in LA.

Dick Broadie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marek Boym" <marekboym at gmail.com>
To: "Richard Broadie" <rbroadie at dc.rr.com>
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Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 3:37 PM
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Fwd: Basie white men


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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com>
> Date: 11 March 2014 00:23
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Basie white men
> To: "ROBERT R. CALDER" <serapion at btinternet.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
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> Basie I gather wanted to engage the English saxophonist Tony Coe
>>
> on tenor.
>>
> True enough, albeir I could never fathom his reasons - Tony Coe hardly
> sounded like a jazz musician to me (despite the fantastic rendition of 
> Bali
> Hai).
>
>>
>> This less conservative tendencies lifted Al out of his more conservative
>> ones.
>> A Willie Smith enthusiast on alto (played clarinet and tenor with Al)
>>
>
> Willei Smith was another story altogehter.
>
>>
>> Tony also does go in for some avant-garde non (in terms of this list) 
>> OKOM
>>
>> but he still congratulated the late and much missed Danny Moss
>>
>
> Another great player.  Had he been American, he would probably have become
> one ogf the greatest stars.  But he was British, and later - Australian.
> Made some fantastic recordings - I suggest his playing at the Bob Barnard
> Jazz Parties.  Unfortunately I've never heard him live, and it seems I've
> missed my chance (I don't believe in concerts in the hereafter0.
>
>>
>> in his campaign to support musical tenor saxophone playing
>>
>> as contrasted with imitations of John Coltrane
>>
>
> Why mention imitations, Robert?  Did Coltrane sound like music?  I know
> about the "sheets of sound," but I am not a native speaker, and to us
> foreigners "ee" an "i" sound the same.
>
>>
>>
>> and misapplying them to fashionable non-musical ends.
>>
>
> Sounds like coltrane himself.
>
>>
>> Great ballad players, Danny and Tony both,
>>
>>
>> Nat Pierce was also a very decent pianist,
>>
>> and if he very occasionally lacked spontaneity,
>> that was in marked comparison with all his many good days.
>>
>> Some of which were as substitute for Basie.
>>
>
> VEry similar, aprce style.  wonderful!
>
>>
>>
>> Cheers (have had half a bottle of Amphorae - an Israeli "boutique" winery
> - 2009 Med Red - great wine, and i probably opened it too soon)
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