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[Marek Boym]

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> If sarcasm is one way of waking up people, why not use it. What do you
> propose as an alternative? Please? As you react on my sarcasm I see it as a
> proof for a useable “weapon” (not the right word, I think). There are no
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> We are struggling with a dying art form.
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That's what they thought in the 1930's.



> The world around us run throw dramatic changes in communication,
> information and way of relations. A guess the average age of people, who
> still see our art form as the best ever produced music, is around 70.
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Not in my country.  Eli Preminger has young following.  I have already
mentioned that he landed a gig at a place ostensibly catering to the
over-30.  They did not let younger people in.  Eli's followers came, and
were not let in.  They might be 30 by now!  Even though Eli notified his
crowd of a policy change, once turned away they didn't come back, and the
gig folded.


> I for myself is 73. Will traditional jazz survive the next 15-20 years as
> a living art form? I have my strong doubts.
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It seemed dead in the 1930's.  Then the featherbrained one and his cohorts
chased Art Hodes out of New York.  He cam back, the Three Deuces are almost
forgotten.  I am 73, too, and we have three people older than I in our
group.  At least two of them are into more "modern" music as well. All the
others are younger.

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> My provocative post, in which I have already express my apologies for, is
> a small clumsy attempt to wake up at least a few people who still think
> that the old crank up Vitrola is the best way of exposing OKOM music and
> plain mail is the only feasible form of communication.
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Who might that be?  Certainly neither Bill (perhaps I shouldn't speak for
him - he has not empowered me to do so) nor I.  And I do not object to your
use of whatever it is, as long as you don't try to force me to.  No way.
Full stop.

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> Old recordings were made in different ways with no specific standard. Many
> recording companies did not use 78 rpm but perhaps 82 rpm or something else
> when recording. Now, when playing those old recordings on today’s standard
> players, with fixed 78 rpm, the tunes come out in a complete wrong key or
> something between keys. You might see this as the charm with old
> recordings. I don´t.  I find it extremely irritating to not be able to play
> along with some IE Louis recordings without retuning the banjo a quarter or
> half tone step. I have quite a number of CD´s were reissued 78 rpm
> recordings are played in undefined keys.
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I am not a musician; I just follow on of the Duke's sayings: "If it sounds
good, it IS good."  Besides, I have never said anything agins remastering,
even though it is often overdone.  Correct the speed, correct the pitch.
But it will still sound better than any currently possible digital
remastering.

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> I just would like to point out that the glorious world of perfect sound,
> that some people think the shell lack era embraced, indeed had its speed
> drawbacks, apart from distortion, hiss noise, clicks and limited frequency
> register. Many of the surviving “masters” used for reissue are also in
> pretty bad shapes. Digital MP3 files has its limitation also. No doubt. The
> standard is 25 years old. There are better digital standards for hand today
> like FLAC. I do not want to listen to professional recorded classical music
> recordings in MP3 format in my Hi-Fi room.
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All that sounds Greek to me.  In my advanced age, if I wished to learn
another language, it would not be Greek!  But then, I am an old technophobe.


> There I agree with you. Vinyl is probably still the optimum media for that
> kind of music. But! Can you really hear any difference of an original 1920
> 78 rpm recording and the same converted to a MP3 file? Whatever all experts
> say, I doubt that very much.
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Sorry, Ulf, but I cannot listen with your ears; the only ears available to
me are mine.  And the difference is not discernible to any electronic
devices.



>   The 78rpm believers can keep the old Vitrola greased for their own joy.
> Oh, Yes I have one bought by my late Uncle 1905.
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I don't understand why you repeat that Victrola business again and again.
Even we, perish the thought, use more advanced devices, perhaps because
crank-up players my change speed while playing.

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> Ulf, here in Africa we consider age just as numbers! How right they were.
> That is why I now at the age of 73 has bought me a Bb tuba, something I
> have dreamed of for years. Will I ever be able to play with others? I don´t
> know. But brain researcher claim strongly that age as such is no limitation
> to learn new things, whatever it is to play the tuba or use Facebook.
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Did I say anything about age and Facebook?  If so, remind me when, because
I cannot recall it.  I have mentioned being an old technophobe, but forty
years ago I  was  young technophobe, and before that - an even younger one
(to the chagrine of my mother whose dream was for me to be an enginner).

I just had a Leffe Blond, lovely Belgian ale - it went very well with the
Modern Sound Orchestra, whom I originally considered German because the
record, "Dixieland Party," was manufactured in Hamburg but who, judging by
their names, are Dutch (or Belgian).
Cheers

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> *Från:* Marek Boym [mailto:marekboym at gmail.com]
> *Skickat:* den 24 januari 2014 21:35
> *Till:* Ulf Jagfors
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> Sarcasm and riducule are often the weapon of people lacking better
> weapons.  which seems to be the case on hand.
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