[Dixielandjazz] Dixieland v. Trad Jazz

[Gary Lawrence Murphy]

so it's not unlike the difference between the fiddle and the violin,
just a notch or two apart on the pretentiousness scale ;)

to paraphrase Pops, "I'm dixieland, you're trad, let's PLAY!" :)

On 2/8/14, Jim O'Briant <jobriant at garlic.com> wrote:
> Bob Brodsky wrote:
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>> I thought that I had made the difference pretty clear
>> in my book, "The World in a Jug" (amazon.com/books
>> or Kindle). Dixieland = 2 beat; N.O. or Trad = 4 beat.
>> That's the simplest difference. ...
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> There are a lot of performing musicians and band leaders who wouldn't
> accept
> that definition. In nearly every band I've played with (I play tuba), the
> leader has called the band a "Traditional Jazz" band -- and has insisted on
> 2-beat bass. And as others have pointed out, Louis Armstrong always said he
> played Dixieland, but an awful lot of his bands had a string bass player
> who
> played 4-beat all the time.
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>> The subtle difference in my mind is that Dixieland is fun,
>> rollicking music, while trad is more serious and mental.
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> I agree with the connotation of "Dixieland = Fun," bringing up visions of
> striped vests, straw "skimmer" hats, and in the USA, pizza parlors and beer
> and sing-alongs. I disagree with your assertion that "Traditional Jazz" is
> "serious and mental" rather than "fun."
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> Perhaps not everyone has read your book, and perhaps some who have may not
> accept every word as gospel.
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> When people ask me the difference, I just say that they're basically two
> names for the same general style of music -- pre-big-band-era jazz, played
> by small bands of about 5 - 9 musicians. If they want more, I add that
> "Dixieland" has that "fun" and "light-hearted" connotation that we agree
> on,
> but that it's a word that has slipped out of favor in more recent years,
> and
> that "Traditional Jazz" is the current term of choice for many.
>
> Jim O'Briant
> Gilroy, CA
> Tuba & Leader, The Zinfandel Stompers
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