[Dixielandjazz] DJML Facebook - 707 Members!

[Gary Lawrence Murphy]

I don't think it is that kind of security they're concerned about.
It's the sort that links you and your behaviours to your location and
those of your 'friends' and then shares all this with your friends and
their friends (in the loosest sense of the word) -- so for example,
you don't know who it is that now knows you have a $5000 banjo sitting
unattended at home while you're out to Mardi Gras.  Such automated
behaviour mining is not really feasible via NSA petitions under
Freedom of Information requests.  So that's just one scenario.

and then there's just plain annoyance security; on FB let's say you
get contacted by old highschool chums that you haven't seen in nearly
40 years, and so you say heck why not, eh? see what they're up to,
compare histories etc. So now they get hooked into your profile and
you chat a bit and slowly learn they're trouble, they're skid row or
in prison or recovering crack addicts or something, and haven't
matured a shred in 40 years and the chat frame just never quits day
and night.  Ok, so it was dumb to reconnect without *really* knowing
more about them, but now they'd know where you live and could access
your regular profile and they'd know who your friends are, as will
their own friends and now what? Do you *dare* disconnect and block
them out of fear they'll panic and start harassing your other
connections or even turn up at your door?  Pandora's box is already
open, you can't close it.

I don't think you get that kind of risk on a special interest mailing
list and while maybe *I* tend to be reckless about such privacy
issues, others may not be.  But the risk is a real and present danger,
and notice in the above scenario, you have done nothing wrong but
misjudge an old acquaintance who used to be a bit of alright, but
there's now no way out.

So I think it is fair to say that no one here is an idiot, if people
say they have concerns about any particular forum or technology,
chances are good they have good reason and we should simply respect
that and please please let it be and move on.

On 4/16/14, Pat Ladd <pj.ladd at btinternet.com> wrote:
> Quite as an aside from the merits or not of facebook or the REAL DJML it
> does seem that you guys are really hung up on `security`.
>
> I hope that you are not under the impression that one system  is more
> secure than the other.  They are both equally susceptible to being read by
> Big Brother, as is every other form of communication  except face to face
> speech.
> In any case does it matter?.  Are you going to be thrown in the pokey for
> not liking Wonderful World, or preferring the Hot Five rather than The Hot
> Seven.  It is not as though you are disclosing your Pin numbers for your
> Bank although on present form they are not very safe either.
>
> Forget the security issue altogether.  I learned long ago in the Army that
> if you cannot influence something, don`t worry about it.  If the Army wants
>
> to post you to the Aleutians tomorrow morning and you have no pull anywhere
>
> then you will wake up tomorrow in the Aleutians. All the worry in the world
>
> won`t change that. Go with the flow.
>
> Pat
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marek Boym
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:42 PM
> To: Pat Ladd
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] DJML Facebook - 707 Members!
>
> One man's meat, Jerry...
>
>
> On 15 April 2014 20:07, Jazz Jerry <jazz1jerry at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Marek,
>>
>> I see that you use gmail which it has been shown by the likes of Edward
>> Snowden is fair game for the various security services including those
>> from
>> the UK, USA and many other countries. No real privacy there. Facebook
>> only
>>
>
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