[Dixielandjazz] Traditional? Dixie?

[Gary Lawrence Murphy]

oh sorry, "dicty" came from a private email from Joe; I hadn't realized the
rest of you weren't privy to that ;)


On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Gary Lawrence Murphy <garym at teledyn.com>wrote:

> all I know of Piron is in the 20's, and by then pretty much *everybody*
> was playing some sort of jazz music; what might a society band of 1901 have
> played if not ragtime?  Classical ditties?  Even Tin Pan Alley was a few
> years yet to come.
>
> the reason I ask, outside of pure curiosity (because I love this kind of
> stuff) is that I am planning our 2014 tour of the local elementary schools
> where we recount the live of Louis Armstrong as the embodiment of Jazz
> music, and I love that quote of there being three kinds of music (four if
> you count brass band marches, five with hymns ;) -- last year I lead off
> with a bit of scott joplin and then an old traditional blues to set the
> scene for young Louis growing up, so I'd love to add in a third type of
> popular music; if it was for the 'dirty' venues, from what Pops tells us
> via Gary Giddins, I'd say it is quite likely he heard a *lot* o' *that*
> kinda music ;)
>
> And "dicty"?  Not sure that clarifies my quest much ;)
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd Assume, Gary, that it meant the "society" bands, such as Arman
>> Piron's, for example.
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> On 6 April 2014 19:39, Gary Lawrence Murphy <garym at teledyn.com> wrote:
>>
>>> on a related note, I encountered the following statement:
>>>
>>> *"Pops Foster: The Autobiography of a New Orleans Jazzman"*
>>>>
>>>> From about 1900 on, there were three types of bands playing in New
>>>> Orleans. You had bands that played ragtime, ones that played sweet music,
>>>> and the ones that played nothin' but blues. A band like John Robichaux's
>>>> played nothin' but sweet music and played the dirty affairs. On a Saturday
>>>> night Frankie Duson's Eagle Band would play the Masonic Hall because he
>>>> played a whole lot of blues. A band like the Magnolia Band would play
>>>> ragtime and work the District...All the bands around New Orleans would play
>>>> quadrilles starting about midnight. When you did that nice people would
>>>> know it was time to go home because things got rough after that.
>>>
>>>
>>> given that Nat Shilkret or Paul Whiteman's sort of 'sweet' was decades
>>> away, what did he mean by 'sweet'? Especially considering they'd take all
>>> the "dirty affairs" (which maybe also could stand some defining ;)
>>>
>>
>>
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