[Dixielandjazz] Fw: Glenn Miller - St. Louis Blues March

Henry C. Mason hmncro at gmail.com
Tue Oct 29 19:29:53 PDT 2013


Both the stock dance band chart of "St Louis Blues March"  and the Marching
band version have "as played by Tex Beneke on Capitol#  xxxx###
at the top of the page.   Tex probably recorded it when he had the GMO or
maybe later with his own band.

Hope this adds to the confusion.

Henry


On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Stan Brager <sbrager at verizon.net> wrote:

> Thanks for the information about "Young Man...", Hal.
>
> By the way, I found the Bunny Berigan "I practice drunk" quote. It comes on
> page 13 of John Chilton's notes for the Bunny Berigan booklet which came
> with that edition of the Time-Life Giants Of Jazz series. It was published
> in 1982.
>
> Stan
> Stan Brager
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hal Vickery [mailto:hvickery_80 at msn.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:13 PM
> To: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Fw: Glenn Miller - St. Louis Blues March
>
> "Young Man with a Horn" was based on a novel by Dorothy Baker.  I've never
> read it, but it was supposedly loosely based on the life of Bix
> Beiderbecke.
> In the novel, like Bix, Rick Martin dies.  In the case of the book, it is
> his drive to perfection that kills him.  In Bix's case it was too much bad
> hooch.
> Hal Vickery
> > Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 01:10:19 +0300
> > From: marekboym at gmail.com
> > Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Fw: Glenn Miller - St. Louis Blues March
> > CC: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> > To: hvickery_80 at msn.com
> >
> > At least, it is a good film, with a story!
> > And music is good, too.  I don't know who attributed it to Bix - when
> > I saw it all those years ago (but quite a few after it premiered in
> > the States - in those years films didn't get to Israel before they
> > were 3-5 years old), I didn't know it was supposed to be about a real
> > person.  But I liked both the music and the film.
> > Actually, imaginary or not, all those films - The Benny Goodman Story,
> > The Glenn Miller Story, The Gene Krupa Story (for some unfathomable
> > reason called in Hebrew "Drums and Hearts"), "The Five Pennies" had
> > pretty good music.  I first saw The Benny Goodman Story in 1957, a few
> > weeks after repatriating to Israel, when I couldn't speak a word of
> > either Hebrew or English, so I had no idea what the story was and just
> > concentrated on the music.  I have a friend who became a jazz fan as a
> > teenager after seeing The Benny Goodman Story in Casablanca - he is over
> 65 now.
> > Cheers (just having a Leffe Radieuse - 8.2% abv)
> >
> >
> > On 27 October 2013 00:32, Stan Brager <sbrager at verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > > While we're at it, let's not forget "Young Man With A Horn" which is
> > > considered to be a biography. Although it's hard to tell if it's
> > > about Bix, Bunny or an amalgam of both.****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Stan****
> > >
> > > Stan Brager ****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > *From:* Marek Boym [mailto:marekboym at gmail.com]
> > > *Sent:* Saturday, October 26, 2013 1:28 PM
> > > *To:* Stan Brager
> > > *Cc:* Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
> > > *Subject:* Re: [Dixielandjazz] Fw: Glenn Miller - St. Louis Blues
> > > March***
> > > *
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > >  in the '50s, many liberties were taken by****
> > >
> > > the studios especially for the stories of famous big band leaders
> > > such as the Dorsey Brothers, Glenn Miller and Benny Goodman.****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > Don't forget Gene Krupa!  ****
> > >
> > > Cheers ****
> > >
> > >
> > > Stan
> > > Stan Brager
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Colin Toomer [mailto:chtoomer at gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 1:18 PM
> > > To: Stan Brager; Bill Haesler
> > > Subject: Re: Fw: [Dixielandjazz] Glenn Miller - St. Louis Blues
> > > March
> > >
> > > On 24/10/2013 8:20 a.m., Colin Toomer wrote:
> > > > Hello List friends Stan & Bill,
> > >
> > > Wasn't this March tune used in the film 'The Glenn Miller Story?'
> > > There was a sequence where Miller supposed upset his superiors by
> > > going on to a march past. conducted the band into this tunes
> > > brighter march tempo & everyones step picked up. In a bk on Miller I
> > > remember a photo of Ray McKinley playing his drumset on a flatbed
> > > truck that kept to a speed the band was marching at. Supposedly
> > > McKinley refused to march, & Miller still wanted a jazz swing rhythm
> > > going at the same time as the marching drum patterns playing thir
> > > patterns.
> > > Whether this film music version ever got on to any soundtrack movie
> > > album I'm not up with that kind of knowledge.
> > >
> > > I have on video a special version Ray McKinley recorded in England
> > > many yrs back with a special assembled British Airforce bband. There
> > > were other US ex-Miller band members on as special guests.
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe more informed members, that would have to be drummers, like
> > > Pat Ladd, who know more than this youngester of 67 yrs.
> > >
> > > Be interesting if anyone will add their posts over the next days.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Colin Toomer,
> > > Whangarei, New Zealand
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Stan Brager asked:
> > > >>> Did Glenn Miller's A.A.F. Band ever record "St. Louis Blues March".
> > > >>> If so, is it available anywhere?
> > > >>
> > > >> Dear Stan,
> > > >> The only version I know of was recorded at RCA Victor, New York
> > > >> for V-Disc on 29 October 1943.
> > > >> It has been reissued on LP and CD numerous times over the years.
> > > >> Here it is
> > > >>   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qf1zB5FPMg
> > > >>
> > > >> Glenn Miller (band ldr) with Zeke Zarchy, Whitey Thomas, Jack
> > > >> Steele, Bobby Nichols, Steve Steck, Jack Reid, John Carisi (t)
> > > >> Jimmy Priddy, James Harwood, John Halliburton, Larry Hall, Russ
> > > >> Myers, Nat Peck, Harry DiVito, Kahn Keene (tb) Addison Collins
> > > >> (fhr) Hank Freeman, Gabe Galinas, Freddy Guerra (as) Jack
> > > >> Ferrier, Vinnie Carbone, Murray Wald, Peanuts Hucko, James Lynn
> > > >> Allison (ts) Chuck Gentry, Mannie Thaler (bar) George Ockner
> > > >> (concertmaster) + 18 strings Jack Russin
> > > >> (p) Carmen Mastren (g) Trigger Alpert, Joe Shulman (b) Ray
> > > >> McKinley, Frank Ippolito (d) Frank Caster (sb) Jerry Gray
> > > >> (arr,vln)
> > > >>
> > > >> Very kind regards,
> > > >> Bill.
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