[Dixielandjazz] Mamie's blues

Don Kirkman donsno2 at charter.net
Sun Oct 20 13:51:31 PDT 2013


On Sun, 20 Oct 2013 13:57:26 +1100, you wrote:

I also thought that was about train schedules.  I seem to recall from
those days I can still recall that urban commuters might ride the 5:15
home in the evening.

>Anton Crouch wrote:
>
>> I imagine that, like me, many people know the Jelly Roll Morton recordings 
>> of "Mamie's blues". The first stanza is
>>
>> Two nineteen done took my baby away (2)
>> Two seventeen bring her back someday
>>
>> The reference is to trains and I had always thought that "two nineteen" 
>> and "two seventeen" referred to train route numbers (1919 and 1717). I 
>> still do but my belief was thrown into doubt when I attended the funeral 
>> of an old friend last week. all the ones I've located have "two nineteen"
>written as "2:19". To me, this implies that the reference is to a timetable 
>(nineteen minutes
>> past two o'clock), not a train route number."
>
>Hi Anton,
>
>I've never given it that much thought, but unlike you I've always thought of 
>them as particular times, not as route numbers, especially when they are 
>written, as you said, 2.19.  Which certainly doesn't mean that I'm correct. 
>If your first thought  of route numbers is correct, then of course they 
>could be 219 and 217 rather than 1919 and 1717. Be interesting if someone as 
>the definitive answer.
>
>Best wishes
>Jack 
>
>
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