[Dixielandjazz] FW: The Nazi’s 10 Control-Freak Rules for Jazz Performers: A Strange List from World War II | Open Culture

[David richoux]

Marek -

I certainly agree with your general history - the Nazis were "against" Jazz and Swing music for the reasons you cite (although they did have Charlie and and his Orchestra to record jazzy propaganda music.)

However, I think it has been proven that this particular edict was a work of satirical fiction, written years after the war was over.

David Richoux

On Mar 29, 2013, at 6:39 AM, Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Dave,
> I've read the discussion, which reveals little.
> Jazz was described by the NAZIs as degenerate Negro music, with the
> addition of Jewish elements.  In his book "U Brzegów Jazzu" (At the
> Jazz Shores), the Polish writer Leopold Tyrmand, who had been  a
> Polish lbourer in GErmany during WWII, described an encounter with a
> German officer who played Benny Goodman Quartet records on his boat
> sailing on a reiver.  IN the book (I cannot find my copy anymore -
> must have fot lost in moving) he mentiones asking the GErman how
> playing music by a group of two Negroes, a Jew and an Americanized
> Czekh went together with being an officer in the Wehrmacht.
> The "rules" might have been invented by a Czekh writer, but jazz was
> forbidden for real, and jazz players were persecuted.  There was a
> film about it (I cannot recall the title nor whether it was a GErman
> film).
> 
> Tyrmand advocated jazz in the days it was still forbidden in communist
> Poland as a "decadent capitalistic music."  Sometime around 1953-54,
> jazz underwent a metamorphosis: from "decadent capitalistic music" to
> "the expression of the Negroes' struggle for equality," and, as such,
> "kosher."
> Cheers,
> Marek (who experienced that metamorphosis)
> 
> On 28 March 2013 18:53, david richoux <domitype at gmail.com> wrote:
>> This so-called "historical edict" has been discussed extensively on DJML -
>> it has been proven to be a work of satirical fiction.
>> 
>> Snopes.com has not published a full report on the subject, but they do
>> discuss it here: http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=49218
>> 
>> Dave Richoux
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Norman Vickers <nvickers1 at cox.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> To:  DJML and Musicians and Jazzfans list, Pensacola Mencken list
>>> 
>>> From: Norman Vickers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pensacola jazzfan Mike Lynch has uncovered another essay.  See his comment
>>> and connect to the link.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Recall, too, that there was the famous essay in Etude Magazine ( classical
>>> music magazine which was almost required reading for music teachers) in the
>>> 1920s which deplored  ragtime and jazz.  This statement was also endorsed
>>> by the American Federation of Musicians.
>>> 
>>> And for the H. L.  Mencken fans, Mencken was  anti-jazz.  He, himself,
>>> played second piano in his Saturday Night Club group.  They had physicians
>>> from Johns Hopkins and music teachers from Peabody Conservatory as part of
>>> that group.  Playing first piano was America’s first professional medical
>>> illustrator, also from Johns Hopkins.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: Mike Lynch [mailto:mikelynch1 at bellsouth.net]
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 8:56 AM:;
>>> Subject: The Nazi’s 10 Control-Freak Rules for Jazz Performers: A Strange
>>> List from World War II | Open Culture
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I’ve had this book for ages.  Now I’m motivated to finally read it.
>>> (Someone should make a poster of the “Nazi Ten Commandments of Jazz”!)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.openculture.com/2013/03/the_nazis_10_control-freak_rules_for_jazz_performers_.html
>>> 
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