[Dixielandjazz] Whiteman controversy

[Marek Boym]

You mean Gus Mueller, the composer of "Wang Wang Blues," who recorded
it with Whiteman.  I actually like the record.
Cheers

On 21 January 2013 20:23, Hal Vickery <hvickery_80 at msn.com> wrote:
>
> When I was taking U.S. History in high school we had to write a term paper.  I chose 1920s jazz.  I read Whiteman's autobiography.  Early on he had a clarinet player from New Orleans, iirc.  When he quit the Whiteman band, he left with the comment, "You guys can't play the blues worth a damn."  This was before he hired the Dorseys, Nichols, Beiderbecke, etc.
> Hal Vickery
>
>> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 11:19:10 -0500
>> From: garym at teledyn.com
>> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Whiteman controversy
>> CC: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
>> To: hvickery_80 at msn.com
>>
>> When Joe Oliver was billed as 'King' there was already several others,
>> including Bunk Johnson; it's my guess it really means more like how the
>> Rastafarians call *every* adult male '*Ras*' (meaning 'king') -- besides,
>> in the case of Whiteman, in that era, if I'm not mistake, *every* product
>> was billed with superlatives.
>>
>> Whiteman did push Gershwin to debut *Rhapsody in Blue* and so maybe he was
>> a king in sense of the crusading King Richard III, in that he didn't do
>> much in the way of governing and leading the country of Jazz, but he did
>> pour a lot of money into Jazz R&D, and maybe did do a lot to open new trade
>> routes ;)
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > OK.
>> > But that's what people in Poland and Israel thought of RnR and Calypso!
>> >
>> > After all, had Whiteman not been considered a jazz player, he would
>> > not have been crowned as
>> > the king of jazz, " would he?
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > On 21 January 2013 02:12, Judy Eames <jude at judyeames.co.uk> wrote:
>> > > On 20/01/2013 21:44, Marek Boym wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Does a magazine description of music as "jazz" make it such?
>> > >
>> > > These are, in part, reports of how  people in the US and UK were
>> > describing
>> > > Whiteman  not the editor's opinion.  The MM was the pro musicians'
>> > journal
>> > > not just any old magazine.  Jazz has many interpretations but who are we
>> > > getting on for 90 years later to say that their description was wrong?
>> > >
>> > > Over and out I think
>> > >
>> > > Jude
>> > >
>> > > www.jude at judyeames.co.uk
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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