[Dixielandjazz] Ken Colyer

[Marek Boym]

I agree re. BEchet, but Bechet is so dominant as to relegate the others to
a secondary role.  I also like the Bechet-Bunk Boston recordings, where,
due to the rather minimalistic lineup, Bunk is more prominent than on the
Blue Note sessions.
The early British rhythm sections, even that of the early Lyttelton band,
were a bit problematic.  Strangely enough, so were those of YErba Buena,
but there they seemed to be like that on purpose - the Yerba Buena were
professional swing musicians who tried to break away.  But, unlike you, I
don't really find that Stan Greig's early drumming was much better than of
the other drummers.  Ditto about the post-Barber Colyer.  I still find the
music of Barber more flowing than of Colyer, except for the first band,
Cheers


On 7 April 2013 02:25, john petters <tjpost at traditional-jazz.com> wrote:

> I think you are right about Bunk not liking the band too much. Of course
> for me, the lynch pin is Baby Dodds - who also drives the Mutt Carey New
> Yorkers. I love the Geo. Lewis Climax sessions too and  believe that
> Edgar Moseley played great N.O style drums.
> For me, it is a rhythmic thing. Celestin's band with the almost
> forgotten Black Happy Goldston has always ranked high on my favourite's
> list, despite the awful piano player.
> It is the rhythm section that eluded the British and European
> revivalists and I have to say the American revivalists on the west coast.
> Incidentally, some of Bunk's best recordings, in my opinion are the Blue
> Notes with Bechet.
> Cheers,
> John
>
> On 06/04/2013 21:17, Marek Boym wrote:
> > To the best of my knowledge, Bunk did not like the band forced on him by
> > Bill Russell.  I've heard Bunk in other settings, and liked him much
> > better.  The best of Bunk, to me, is on the GHB "Spicy Advice" album; I
> > find those with George Lewis moderately good at best (the GHB people
> > claim that all the shellack and the subsequent vinyl issues were pressed
> > at a wrong speed, something rectified on it's American Music CDs),
> > wheras the same band with Kid Howard in place of Bunk sound wonderful.
> > As to the specific question, assuming you mean the famous Bunk band
> > (with Lewis, Robinson, etc.), I definitely prefer the Mutt Carey's New
> > Yorkers.  Also the recordings Bunk made with the Yerba Buena.  I could
> > quote a few others.
> > You can't teach an old dog new tricks, and this dog is quite old.  I
> > still remember the thrill of buying my first Bunk, and the ensuing
> > disappointment (it was with Albert Warner rather than Jim Robinson on
> > the trombone).  It did not compare with the George Lewis 10" on Esquire,
> > featuring "Jerusalem Blues" I bought sleeveless at Dobell's back in
> > 1964).  I did not despair, and bought one with Jim Robinson when I firs
> > was one, and that one was equally disappointing, unlike the GEorge
> > Lewis' Blue Notes or "Kid Howard at San Jacinto" on GHB.  I was only
> > later that I was exposed to the
> > "real" Bunk Johnson - with the band he put up in New York, the Yerba
> > Buena, and then - the "Spicy Advice" album.
> > By the way, I love Wingy Manone, even if "The Isle of Capri" is not my
> > favourite Manone record.
> > As to teh other specific question - I have not heard George Lewis with
> > Ken Colyer.
> > Cheers
> >
>
>
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