[Dixielandjazz] Dixielandjazz Digest, Vol 117, Issue 14

CHARLES ENLIND cenlind at msn.com
Fri Sep 14 18:02:56 PDT 2012


I'm going to Cape May, NJ for a week on 9/16.  Is there any trad jazz going on there then.
 
Chas Enlind
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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> 1. Re: Playing for Beer (Andrew)
> 2. Re: Playing for Beer (Patrick Skiffington)
> 3. Eric Holroyd Update (Bill Haesler)
> 4. Playing for Beer (Bill Haesler)
> 5. Re: [Norton AntiSpam]Re: Playing for Beer (Louis Lince)
> 6. Video of Peggy Lee with Stephane Grappelli (Robert Ringwald)
> 7. Re: Playing for Beer (Andrew)
> 8. Re: Playing for Beer (John Petters)
> 9. Video of Peggy Lee with Stephane Grappelli (Bob Smith)
> 10. Re: Video of Peggy Lee with Stephane Grappelli (RickeyZ)
> 11. Encores are not allowed at the Geneva "F?te de la musique"
> (BoogieGeneva)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:25:43 -0700
> From: Andrew <andrew.jazzz at gmail.com>
> To: Stephen G Barbone <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Playing for Beer
> Message-ID: <09C9650B-BF04-4303-B33A-2212A1424672 at gmail.com>
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> It's not "Rockers Playing for Beer" - she's asking real, trained musicians to play for beer. 
> 
> The rockers get paid -
> 
> A.
> 
> 
> On 2012-09-13, at 6:17 AM, Stephen G Barbone wrote:
> 
> > Note that Amanda is requesting a string quartet and 3 or 4 sax and brass players to join her( if they pass rehearsal, also for free) on stage for her tour. NO PAY, JUST BEER. Hey Amanda, ask some of those misguided Dixieland musicians who love to play for free.
> > 
> > 
> > September 12, 2012, NY Times - By Daniel J. Wakin
> > Rockers Playing for Beer: Fair Play?
> > 
> > The rock musician Amanda Palmer says she is giving a gift to her fans by inviting those who play strings, saxophone and brass to join her on stage during a tour. Joy and beer are the recompense.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 14:36:06 -0700
> From: Patrick Skiffington <sunshine.trail at gmail.com>
> To: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Playing for Beer
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> Think of it this way, would you play with your favorite band for beer? I'm
> sure these musicians are big fans of Mz. Palmer, and are thrilled just to
> stroll the boards with her. Would you play a few dates with Bix or
> Teagarden if they asked you and told you they could just pay you in beer? I
> know I would LOVE to play with certain trad bands, no matter what the money
> looks like.
> -Patrick Skiffington
> 
> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Andrew <andrew.jazzz at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > It's not "Rockers Playing for Beer" - she's asking real, trained musicians
> > to play for beer.
> >
> > The rockers get paid -
> >
> > A.
> >
> >
> > On 2012-09-13, at 6:17 AM, Stephen G Barbone wrote:
> >
> > > Note that Amanda is requesting a string quartet and 3 or 4 sax and brass
> > players to join her( if they pass rehearsal, also for free) on stage for
> > her tour. NO PAY, JUST BEER. Hey Amanda, ask some of those misguided
> > Dixieland musicians who love to play for free.
> > >
> > >
> > > September 12, 2012, NY Times - By Daniel J. Wakin
> > > Rockers Playing for Beer: Fair Play?
> > >
> > > The rock musician Amanda Palmer says she is giving a gift to her fans by
> > inviting those who play strings, saxophone and brass to join her on stage
> > during a tour. Joy and beer are the recompense.
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 08:40:06 +1000
> From: Bill Haesler <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
> To: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Eric Holroyd Update
> Message-ID: <DA737163-68F7-4B1A-9D9B-90BFA4B0AE63 at bigpond.net.au>
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> 
> Dear Friends,
> An update from Eric Holroyd's daughter, as promised.
> Very kind regards,
> Bill.
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> > From: Samantha Lysaught <lifecels at gmail.com>
> > Date: 13 September 2012 9:39:10 PM AEST
> > 
> > Good evening everyone!
> > 
> > I am sorry for the delay in getting to you all. This week has been quite hectic with Dad being in hospital.
> > 
> > He was told a few days ago that he could have a bypass/graft to repair the blocked artery, but they were working on getting his lungs better. Just today he has been told that after much research from his previous operations and heart issues, that there is nothing they can do for the blocked artery. Apparently his heart won't take another graft. He was quite disheartened at first, thinking that it was the "end of the line" however he has cheered up a bit, knowing that they are concentrating on getting his lungs right.
> > 
> > For many months now he has had problems with breathing and clearing his lungs. So finally something seems to be getting done about that. I guess the heart attack made his lungs worse, however they werent real good to start off with.
> > 
> > Due to my work commitments I can only go in once a day, although I do ring him first thing in the morning. He was REALLY happy that last night he got a WHOLE SIX HOURS SLEEP!!!!!!
> > 
> > I have been taking in my IPAD and reading him everyone's messages and I can tell you he has been very moved. I dont think he really has an idea of how many people he has touched throughout his music career and his life.
> > 
> > So please feel free to send emails. If any of you wish to visit, and of course you are in the same country to do so, he is in Westmead Hospital,, A5B Bed 28.
> > Visiting hours are 12-2 and then 4-8.
> > 
> > I understand how busy life is though, so if you just wish to send him an email, feel free to do that and I will pass it on to him.
> > 
> > Our family is very pleased with how he is, as we were told at the beginning of the week that he was "hanging in there by a thread"
> > 
> > As you all know he lost my mum, the love of his life, over 4 years ago and he misses her terribly. But its not time for him to go see her just yet. I want him here a lot longer with me and my family!
> > 
> > You all please take care, call me if you want any information
> > 
> > If you want to pass this on to others, please do so. I know there are so many people out there that I just dont have addresses for.
> > 
> > Sam
> > -- 
> > Kind regards,
> > Samantha Lysaught
> > 
> > www.lifescelebrationsbysamantha.com.au
> > 
> > Mobile: 0432 553 193
> > 
> > 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:06:09 +1000
> From: Bill Haesler <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
> To: Patrick Skiffington <sunshine.trail at gmail.com>, Dixieland Jazz
> Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Playing for Beer
> Message-ID: <CA0280D0-1592-4293-BBEF-810C713A20AE at bigpond.net.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> Patrick Skiffington wrote [in part]:
> > Think of it this way, would you play with your favorite band for beer? ... Would you play a few dates with Bix or
> > Teagarden if they asked you and told you they could just pay you in beer? I
> > know I would LOVE to play with certain trad bands, no matter what the money looks like.
> 
> Dear Patrick,
> In Australia musicians frequently 'sit-in' with bands on jobs for one or two numbers or even a bracket.
> It's a common mateship thing here.
> I have done it for many years.
> And, conversely, have invited musicians to sit in with my bands over the years. Still do, at pub/casual jobs.
> However, for a paying job I would never agree to play the whole engagement for beer only.
> Nor would I ever ask or expect anyone to do so with my band.
> Particularly for a paid concert engagement.
> Very kind regards,
> Bill.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 00:15:55 +0100
> From: "Louis Lince" <louislince at neworleansmusic.demon.co.uk>
> To: "Patrick Skiffington" <sunshine.trail at gmail.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] [Norton AntiSpam]Re: Playing for Beer
> Message-ID: <78F92E15098B43868965758D1945E3F3 at AdventUserPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
> 
> The answer is NO. I play to earn a living, not for beer and a possible 
> transitory 15 minutes of fame.
> 
> best
> 
> Louis
> 
> 
> Patrick said <polite snip>
> 
> 
> Would you play a few dates with Bix or Teagarden if they asked you and told 
> you they could just pay you in beer? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:28:45 -0700
> From: "Robert Ringwald" <rsr at ringwald.com>
> To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Video of Peggy Lee with Stephane Grappelli
> Message-ID: <9263443B0D324D54A29BBC4C3A092207 at BobPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Years ago, the following 1983 video clip was available on YouTube for a short while,
> and now it is back. 
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c02bNqbR_6E
> 
> It features a 75-year-old Stephane and a 63-year-old Peggy. 
> 
> 
> -Bob Ringwald
> www.ringwald.com
> Amateur (ham) Radio Operator K6YBV
> 916/ 806-9551
> 
> The crime of taxation is not in the taking of it. It's in the way it's spent.
> --Will Rogers March 20, 1932
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 22:43:48 -0700
> From: Andrew <andrew.jazzz at gmail.com>
> To: Patrick Skiffington <sunshine.trail at gmail.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Playing for Beer
> Message-ID: <AF0A04D1-258B-4018-A505-8E264C3663BC at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> If Bix or T. thought I was good-enough to play with them at a gig, they would pay me.
> 
> A jam session is not a gig .
> 
> That's the way it was -
> 
> A.
> 
> 
> On 2012-09-13, at 2:36 PM, Patrick Skiffington wrote:
> 
> > Think of it this way, would you play with your favorite band for beer? I'm
> > sure these musicians are big fans of Mz. Palmer, and are thrilled just to
> > stroll the boards with her. Would you play a few dates with Bix or
> > Teagarden if they asked you and told you they could just pay you in beer? I
> > know I would LOVE to play with certain trad bands, no matter what the money
> > looks like.
> > -Patrick Skiffington
> > 
> > On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Andrew <andrew.jazzz at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> It's not "Rockers Playing for Beer" - she's asking real, trained musicians
> >> to play for beer.
> >> 
> >> The rockers get paid -
> >> 
> >> A.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 10:09:05 +0100
> From: John Petters <jdpetters at btinternet.com>
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Playing for Beer
> Message-ID: <5052F431.90101 at btinternet.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Agree Louis. The answer is always no. Those guys would not have asked in
> any case. They were pros.
> 
> John Petters
> 
> On 14/09/2012 00:15, Louis Lince wrote:
> > The answer is NO. I play to earn a living, not for beer and a possible
> > transitory 15 minutes of fame.
> > 
> > best
> > 
> > Louis
> > 
> > 
> > Patrick said <polite snip>
> > 
> > 
> > Would you play a few dates with Bix or Teagarden if they asked you and
> > told you they could just pay you in beer?
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > To unsubscribe or change your e-mail preferences for the Dixieland Jazz
> > Mailing list, or to find the online archives, please visit:
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> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> John Petters
> www.traditional-jazz.com
> Amateur Radio Station G3YPZ
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:38:32 +0200
> From: Bob Smith <robert.smith at tele2.no>
> To: Robert Ringwald <rsr at ringwald.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Video of Peggy Lee with Stephane Grappelli
> Message-ID: <890438D1010C470DA936C03F7B86928C at RobertSPC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed;
> reply-type=original
> 
> Dear Bob,
> 
> Many thanks for the Peggy Lee/Stephane Grappelli video.
> 
> Peggy lee has always been one of my favourites; her stage presence is 
> absolutely fantastic.
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> Bob Smith
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 09:37:16 -0600
> From: RickeyZ <rickz at usermail.com>
> To: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Video of Peggy Lee with Stephane
> Grappelli
> Message-ID: <50534F2C.1080600 at usermail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> In 1964, IBM was interviewing me for a job, and they put me up at the 
> Ambassador Hotel (LA). I went down to the Coconut Grove in the 
> afternoon, and Peggy Lee was rehearsing for a show that evening. She 
> was wearing short shorts, dancing some, and she looked just GREAT. 
> It's a shock to see her 20 years later, with all that added weight. Of 
> course, her voice still sounds wonderful.
> 
> Thanks for the clip!!
> 
> Rick Jolley
> Colorado Nighthawks
> 
> On 9/13/2012 11:28 PM, Robert Ringwald wrote:
> > Years ago, the following 1983 video clip was available on YouTube for a short while,
> > and now it is back.
> >
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c02bNqbR_6E
> >
> > It features a 75-year-old Stephane and a 63-year-old Peggy.
> >
> >
> > -Bob Ringwald
> > www.ringwald.com
> > Amateur (ham) Radio Operator K6YBV
> > 916/ 806-9551
> >
> > The crime of taxation is not in the taking of it. It's in the way it's spent.
> > --Will Rogers March 20, 1932
> > _______________________________________________
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> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 20:17:10 +0200
> From: "BoogieGeneva" <jakpiano at bluewin.ch>
> To: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Encores are not allowed at the Geneva "F?te
> de la musique"
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> As a matter of general policy, no encores are allowed at the Geneva "F?te de
> la musique". Those who speak French and event those who do not might have
> some fun in looking at the video was taken in June :
> http://youtu.be/0qJ2osutkAI
> 
> Regards to All,
> Jacques
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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