[Dixielandjazz] New Orleans Jazz Bands
marekboym at gmail.com
Tue May 8 14:44:57 PDT 2012
May I respectfully point out that neither the Original Memphis Five
nor Red Nichols were from New Orleans, and while the former, at least
at the beginning, tried to emulate the ODJB, the latter never did.
The other whlte bands mentioned were, indeed, from New Orleans.
On 8 May 2012 23:53, Stephen G Barbone <barbonestreet at earthlink.net> wrote:
> To confuse matters more, there are those who opine that there were/are 3
> distinct types of New Orleans Jazz. For want of a better system of
> classification, they call them:
> 1) Downtown N.O. Where the musicians are trained, can usually read music,
> and play a very organized music, either by head, or written arrangements.
> Solo oriented, these include the King Oliver bands/musicians, as well as
> individuals like Bechet, Noone, Dodd, Bunk Johnson, Louis Armstrong Hot 5/7,
> Morton's Red Hot Peppers, Clarence Williams Blue Five, et al.
> 2) Uptown N.O Bands: Where the musicians are not well studied. Many cannot
> read. Much more blues based. As close to folk music jazz as you can get.
> Much more ensemble oriented. Examples are Kid Thomas Valentine, George
> Lewis, Willie Humphrey et al. There is little recorded evidence of this
> style from the 20s. No doubt because those bands which were recording back
> then preferred their musically trained peers, rather than "ear" musicians.
> (With the exception of Bechet who was a one of a kind genius player) British
> Trad, as well as Preservation Hall evolved from these musicians.,
> 3. White New Orleans: Bands and the musicians in them like ODJB, Original
> Memphis Five, Red Nichols NORK, Halfway House, etc. While this style seems
> to has almost disappeared, their repertoire lives on among all Dixielanders
> who play those tunes the ODJB takes composer credit for. And many white jazz
> musicians got their start by listening and idolizing ODJB (Like Bix)
> As an aside and this is my opinion while the above paraphrases other's
> views; the early New Orleans players seem, in my ears, to play the rhythm
> as well as the notes. Armstrong and Bechet readily come to mind.
> Steve Barbone
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