[Dixielandjazz] More Girls Going Crazy
frank selman
frank_selman at live.nl
Fri Oct 28 01:19:53 PDT 2011
> Hello Tyleman/ Barbonestreet/ DJML
>
> Here is another performance of Ory's singing "All the girls go crazy": it is
> on a 4 CD box labelled Quadromania, 222466-444, issued in
> Germany by MEMBRAN Gmbh. in 2005.
> It was recorded live At the Green Room, S.F. on october 2, 1947. And as for
> titles, it is titled "All the girls SO crazy". Ory gets the credits.
> Who says the Germans have no sense of humor!
>
> Regards,
>
> Frank Selman.
> From: barbonestreet at earthlink.net
> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 22:38:15 -0400
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] All the Girls Go Crazy
> CC: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> To: frank_selman at live.nl
>
>
> > tyleman <tyleman at isp.com> wrote
> >
> > <barbonestreet at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> This is a tune that was reputed to be part of Buddy Bolden's
> >> repertoire. The
> >> way I hear it, Ory changed the words and title thus getting credit
> >> by some
> >> sources for writing the tune.
> >
> > According to what source, Steve? It's not mentioned in Don Marquis'
> > book about Bolden (generally considered the definitive book on
> > Bolden), in the section dedicated to numbers the band played. There's
> > also no reference to it in the book "Hear Me Talkin' to You," the
> > compilation of interviews with various musicians from a variety of
> > sources, first published in 1955.
>
> Dear Chris:
>
> Source is Dan Hardie who posted on the DJML the following about it on
> April 3, 2004:
>
> The tune is generally regarded as part of the Bolden repertoire under
> the title All the Whores Go Crazy About the Way I Ride. ( I think
> Danny Barker was the source of the information.) Wooden Joe Nicholas
> recorded it under that title on American Music AMCD 5. His is a bit
> rougher than the Bunk Johnson Yerba Buena one. (Witnesses said Bunk
> could never play loud and rough like Buddy.) I have been researching
> it for a current project and tried Googling it the other day but was
> advised only that it was written by Ory which I doubt. I think it was
> origiinally one of the vernacular jump ups played by Bolden and others.
> I have not been able to get hold of a lyric so I would appreciate a
> copy of it and your lead sheet. I could perhaps comment further then.
> I too would appreciate any other information list members can provide.
> best wishes
> Dan Hardie
>
> IIn one of his books, Dan also states that the song was part of
> Bolden's repertoire. This from "The Ancestry of Jazz: A Musical Family
> by Daniel Hardie, 2004. Pages 191 and 192. (excerpts):
>
> ". . . there is a core of some 42 compositions that can reasonably
> said to have been performed by Bolden's various groups between 1897
> and 1906. An analysis of these works showed that by far the largest
> proportion (35%) were clearly of the black vernacular origin, probably
> derived from earlier dance songs (jump ups) and blues . . . ."
> "This seems also to describe compositions from Bolden's repertoire,
> like 'Pretty Mama Open Your Legs One More Time" and "All The Whores Go
> Crazy About The Way I Ride.
>
> Perhaps Dan and/or Igemar Wegeman with whom he discussed these tunes
> can shed more light o the subject.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve Barbone
> www.myspace.com/barbonestreetjazzband
>
>
>
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