[Dixielandjazz] Codswallop

[Ivor Jones]

What a load of rubbish and misinformation about words we read on this

'Codswallop' is a case in point.

 In fact a cod or 'codpiece' is in fact a case, or to be more correct a 
pouch
used to contain a gentlemans vital equipment and originated in the 14th 
Century. A blow from sword or lance
was called a codswallop. In deference to our Americans it can be translated 
as a kick in the sweetbreads.
I rest my case. Well I in fact put in down somewhere and can't remember 
where I put it. That's age for you.








----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd at btinternet.com>
To: "iVOR jONES" <BANJONES at sapo.pt>
Cc: "dixieland jazz" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Codswallop


> why
> did it take from the 1870s to the 1950s for the phrase to appear in
> print? I say 1950s becauseJB Priestley's /Three men in new suits/ (1945>>
>
> Hi Anton,
> welcome to the cognoscente.
>
> I will bow to your research about the date that `codswallop` appeared in 
> print but it was certainly in general use orally as another word for 
> `rubbish` by the time I was using it. Say 1940.
>
> Incidentally `cod` was used in the north of England and in Scotland as a 
> word meaning a hoax or a fool.  Fools lemonade???
>
> There!. Isn`t that more interesting that arguing about what sort of valve 
> oil was used by the tuba player in Max Schneider's College Boys 1923 
> recording of `Gimme that low down Chicago Meiggs Field Blues`
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
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