[Dixielandjazz] High School Bands

[Marek Boym]

I said I'd forgo the "esoteric jazz."
You, as always, assume that those who disagree with you "know
absolutely nothing."
Believe it or not, I know about the  Essentially Ellington program at
Jazz at Lincoln Center.  And I know that there are high school bands
that swing.
But you'd rather argue points not raised - I clearly wrote '"jazz"
graduates," not "high school musicians, but reading THAT might have
required thinking about an intelligent reply.  You argue like a
sophist.
Cheers


On 12 March 2011 22:41, Stephen G Barbone <barbonestreet at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Then, my dear Marek, you should stop disrespecting the jazz music of high
> school musicians in the USA when you know absolutely nothing about them, how
> good they are, and how much they swing. How can you presume to compare them
> to what you know, when you don't know about them?
>
> Did you not listen to the first two bands? Not esoteric at all, full of soul
> and they swung.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve Barbone
> www.myspace.com/barbonestreetjazzband
>
>
>
>> Marek Boym <marekboym at gmail.com> wrote:
>> To: Stephen G Barbone <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
>>
>> Thakn you, I'll pass.
>> I am not going to waste whatever is left of my life on "music" you
>> call "esoteric jazz."
>> All that reminds me of a character in "The Fountainhead," and I do not
>> mean the architect.
>> Cheers
>>
>> On 12 March 2011 17:22, Stephen G Barbone <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2011, at 2:42 AM, Marek Boym wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Barbone wrote
>>>>> I would add that perhaps Sinatra Jr. was referring to Kenton's
>>>>> Mellophonium
>>>>> band circa 1960-63. This version had its own 4 mellophonium section and
>>>>> was
>>>>> a change from previous Kenton sounds. He even won a Grammy and it was
>>>>> the
>>>>> foundation of his educational work with colleges and high schools which
>>>>> legacy and big band influence continues today.
>>>>
>>>> And what good it has done is reflected by todays musicians synthetic
>>>> sound. ?Somehow, most "jazz" graduates manage to sound the same - lots
>>>> of tecnique, complete lack of any originality or soul.
>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Steve Barbone
>>>>> www.myspace.com/barbonestreetjazzband
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Ouch Marek: You tar all the GREAT high school musicians with the same
>>> brush.
>>> Perhaps you should spend more time in the USA listening to the plethora
>>> of
>>> wonderful high School Jazz Bands we have here.
>>>
>>> Want some soul at the high school level? see Garfield HS with Wynton
>>> Marsalis, at:
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tJZZIWui5Q&feature=related
>>>
>>> Or hear them again at:
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA-nAIpuge8
>>>
>>> For more esoteric Jazz, which you will not like, but is astounding go to:
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkPCtUg6-vY&feature=related
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgnIjDCmWfY&feature=related
>>>
>>> Plenty of great High School Jazz Bands here that compete every year. Like
>>> those at the Folsom CA Jazz Festival every year, or at the Essentially
>>> Ellington high school competition sponsored by Jazz at Lincoln Center, or
>>> at
>>> the Mingus high school band competition in Massachusetts.
>>>
>>> I particularly like the Essentially Ellington program at Jazz at Lincoln
>>> Center. They claim to have helped 300,000 students in 5000 schools master
>>> the fundamentals of jazz.
>>>
>>> http://www.jalc.org/jazzed/ee/welcome09.html
>>>
>>> Once on that page, click on the "Announcing the 2011 ?etc., (in blue)
>>>
>>> Like I said, lots of GREAT high school bands and players are around the
>>> USA.
>>> ?And in cities like New York, there are lots of great young jazz players
>>> working in small clubs. They too have lots of soul.
>>
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