[Dixielandjazz] Spotify

Sun Jul 24 14:00:22 PDT 2011

Well, it is a kind of peer to peer function that uses all connected
subscribers cashed  playlists to back up streaming data for other connected
subscribers to save bandwidth and increase download speed.. By no way I
believe that Apple should allow SPOTIFY to download their clients iTune
cashed lists to back up other SPOTIFY clients. As Iphone and Ipad has Apps
for Spotify I am confident that Apple have checked that thoroughly. But why
not ask Apple about it? I am sure there are a number of FAQ lists you can
address this issue. If you are worried about your secrets don´t connect to
SPOTIFY until you know for sure.  

“if I have a song that is not in the general Spotify catalogue (something I
loaded from an old record or other source) then any other Spotify user can
get it, unless I set my account preferences to  restrict access.”

But SPOTIFY have worked several years to clear the copyright situation for
different markets. I cannot believe that they should jeopardize that by
supplying material from outside sources, like the Pirate Bay site, which is
not in the cleared copyright catalogues. After all they pay for each
downloaded tune in a strict agreement with the owner of the tunes. I have
never seen any strange source in my downloads of tunes after a name or band
search. All sources are issued CD´s from different companies.

Please keep me updated. I am interested of the outcome. And thanks for
alerting the list about it. I will see what I can find out from my Swedish
brothers.

Ulf

Från: david richoux [mailto:domitype at gmail.com] 
Skickat: den 24 juli 2011 17:10
Till: Ulf Jagfors
Kopia: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
Ämne: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Spotify

Ulf,I just got the free (invite) version a few days ago and maybe I am
misunderstanding the program. However, I did find this on Wiki and it may
better explain my concerns:

The contents of each client's cache is summarized in an index which is sent
to the Spotify   stream hub upon connecting to the service. This index is
then used to inform other clients about additional peers they can connect to
for fetching streamed data for individual tracks being played. This is
accommodated by each client, upon startup, acting as a server listening for
incoming connections from other Spotify users, as well as intuitively
connecting to other users to exchange cached data as appropriate. There are
currently no official details from the developers about how many connections
and how much of a user's upstream bandwidth the Spotify client will use when
streaming to other users; the Spotify client offers no way for the user to
configure this. 

As I understand this (and I may be wrong) - the contents of my iTunes folder
would be available to any other Spotify user - if I have a song that is not
in the general Spotify catalogue (something I loaded from an old record or
other source) then any other Spotify user can get it, unless I set my
account preferences to  restrict access.

David Richoux

On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Ulf Jagfors <ulf.jagfors at telia.com> wrote:
> David
>
> Could you explain more in detail what you mean. I have been a Spotify user
> for more than one year now and I do not understand your statement?
>
> SPOTIFY has an agreement with the major record companies to give access to
> all their CD issues. By that they now have about 13 million tunes
available
> by a few simple clicks on the key board. Spotify is not a file sharing
> service. They have the tunes available on their own storage system with
> direct MP3 streaming to the user. But you can also, as a small company or
> private maker of music, sign an agreement with Spotify to make your own
> recordings available. However I have heard people complained about pretty
> low compensation for each download. But you are there and make your own
> music available for any of the 10 million subscribers at Spotify.
>
> According to my opinion Spotify has the largest number of old and revival
> classical jazz recordings available on the net just now. Over the last
year
> I have organized my own playlists which now contains about 7000 recordings
> of the most prominent jazz orchestras in the 1920-1960 genre of classic
> jazz. Very few people have such a large collection of LP´s and CD´s.
However
> there is one drawback. There is only CD issues available. That means that
> early or rare 78 or LP´s that has not been converted to CD issues are not
> there. However, the vast amount of recordings still available are more
than
> enough for me to keep me busy all the time to listen to. For instance, my
> playlist of Bix contains 130 tracks. Are there any more??
>
> By subscribing to the premium service ,$10 in US, I also have access, by
> syncing, all my playlists to my smart phone (Android or iOS Apps)or any
> other computer to which I can log in to Spotify. This is an extremely
handy
> feature. I am sitting in a jam and people ask how a particular tunes
sounds.
> I get it on my smart phone in seconds and can play it for the other
> musicians. A few weeks ago we discussed why King Oliver's version of
Doctor
> Jazz never were issued in the 1920´s. I could immediately search and play
> King Olivers version, issued in the 1960´s. We could understand why the
> record companies thought that Jelly Roll Morton's version were so much
> superior to Oliver's.( I hope I do not start any flamed debate here)
>
> I can also download a playlist of 3300 tunes for listen too without an
> Internet access (Off Line), like an MP3 player. And I can also download my
> own made MP3 playlists, and sync it to all my gadgets. That is handy if
> those recordings are not available from Spotify. Of course Spotify cannot
> forward those private down loads to other users as that should break the
> copyright agreements.
>
> When searching for a particular artist or orchestra you get a list of all
> recordings available. Many of the listed tunes are duplicates from
different
> CD issues on different companies. If you want to create a playlist without
> having six copies of i.e. Avalon you can delete all but one in your
> downloaded list. The easiest way of doing that is to click on the tune
names
> headline. Then all tunes will be sorted in alphabetic order and you can
see
> how many copies of the same tune there are. Then you can check the quality
> of the different CD issues. Some of them are perhaps not cleaned from
> scratches and clicks and some of them are not in correct pitch. Delete
those
> and save the best version for your personal playlist. It take some time
but
> once made you have a perfect list for all your gadgets.
>
> I can only recommend you all to try for yourself. It is the future way of
> getting music in scale and flexibility we never have had before and to a
> decent cost, limited free download or unlimited $5 PC or extended with
smart
> phone service $10. And the bonus for you in US is that the prices are 50%
> lower than in Europe.
>
> Ulf who have no shares in Spotify but I wish I had.
>
>
>
> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> Från: dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com
> [mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com] För david richoux
> Skickat: den 24 juli 2011 00:44
> Till: Ulf Jagfors
> Kopia: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
> Ämne: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Spotify
>
> It is very interesting, but it functions by giving any and all
> subscribers access to YOUR music files (on iTunes or other music
> programs.)
>
> You can set it to be private, but the basic idea is to share...
>
> David RIchoux
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Robert Ringwald <rsr at ringwald.com> wrote:
>> A site called
>> www.spotify.com
>>  is a European music site that has come to the US.  The Free version with
> a large
>> collection of music has come to the US and was reviewed in USA  Today a
> few days
>> ago now.  Very favorable.
>> You can get ad free versions for $5 a month. $10 for one with extra
> content and for
>> mobile phones. The free version is currently by invitation only or may
now
> be available
>> at once.  You go to the site and sign up for free version and they send
> you an email
>> eventually confirming they accept you, and then you download their
player.
>> They seem to have the largest number of record companies on board.
>> Perhaps worth a try.
>>
>>
>> --Bob Ringwald
>> www.ringwald.com
>> Fulton Street Jazz Band
>> 530/ 642-9551 Office
>> 916/ 806-9551 Cell
>> Amateur (Ham) Radio K6YBV
>>
>
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