[Dixielandjazz] Dogfight!

[Scott Anthony]

I'm sorry, I have to throw a monkey wrench into this discussion of 
"dogfight" and hopefully clear up what I think are misconceptions:

As a member of Bob Schulz's band for almost 25 years, I think the only times 
(in his band or mine) I can think of when the term "dogfight" is used is for 
the short interludes that have become "standard" between certain strains of 
certain tunes like "Clarinet Marmalade" and "That's A'Plenty." For example, 
in "That's A'Plenty" it usually occurs after the verse and first chorus are 
played and then again just before the last ensemble chorus or two.

In "Clarinet Marmalade" it occurs at 1:06 and 2:54 in the following clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xn_3T4vbtE

At about 1:00 and 3:09 in "That's A'Plenty" in the following clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ8t1UpIJ-Y

The example in the cited link below is just our normal arrangement of 
"Oriental Strut" where at the end of the tune the band plays what is 
actually the verse, then I play the first half of the out-chorus and the 
rest of the band comes in at the end. "Oriental Strut" does not really have 
a "dogfight" interlude in it. Actually, if he were to yell out, "DOGFIGHT" 
during "Oriental Strut," everyone in the band would probably fall off the 
stage in utter confusion.

I think you may have misunderstood what Bob was illustrating at the Jazz 
Camp or, possibly, he used the term when he really meant "loose out-chorus." 
He's been known to do that sometimes :)

Scott Anthony
Bob Schulz Frisco Jazz Band and Golden Gate Rhythm Machine

----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Dogfight!


>A dogfight is not "every man for himself"  Everyone knows their place, and 
>they improvise within that space.
> i.e. Trombone is playing a baritone part, and knows how to do that, etc.
>
> Here's a good example from Bob Schultz, himself.   At the end, they play a 
> brief dogfight, let the banjoist solo
> and then finish with a dogfight and a stock endding.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPmRNSr6b5w&feature=related
>
> Cheerios,
>
> Rick
> BTW, the banjo sounds like me!!
>
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