[Dixielandjazz] Can Of Worms

[richard.flecknell at ntlworld.com]

Good Morning Ex-Pomgolian,

right before I comment.  Your friend, Derek Winters, has seen me playing, once, and danced too, around 8 years ago. Once was enough, eh!

I'm not going to try and join this lot up (haven't the time ~ already 1 and half hours in to answering email from The Convicts). 

My opinions and thoughts (not laid in stone). The DML can discuss in detail later.

Ken Colyer - does he play authentic NO music, probably not. All styles move on and his version of NO caught on (I like it too). Later in the early 60s a different sound emerged such as Geoff Bull, Barry Martyn, Keith Smith etc.
The younger musicians are coming up with yet another slant on it. And so it goes.

Dixieland & New Orleans Jazz - we can't agree on this site, let alone outside of it.  My take on Dixieland is often at odds with the US. George Lewis for an example, at various times his bands have used Ragtimers, Dixieland and New Orleans in band title. 
Dixieland to me would be the ODJB and bands that shortly followed their footsteps, OM5 for one. I cannot leave out the NO players such as Sharkey, Mike Lala, Santo Pecora etc (they were there ~ it's their music).  Ory for one, I think, said he listened to the ODJB records. Was he as a working musician and knowing the consequences of being up to date influenced by the ODJB? 
Anyone out there know Kid Howard's influences. 

Now the Bolden Band. Not something I would attempt. Hiding to nothing.
It's difficult having played for many years to leave out your phrasing and fav licks/runs and your sound, and then guess as to what it may have sounded like.  Violin seemed a valid choice, as guitar would be.

Richard








---- Graham Martin <grahmartin at bigpond.com> wrote: 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> New Orleans style jazz, although I doubt that reality, is not rare in
> Australian jazz. Geoff Bull gets around the scene with his own band playing
> the same kind of trumpet style as is in the clip, and Paul Furniss'
> beautiful reed sounds are heard in all kinds of jazz settings. There are
> others claiming to play N.O. jazz but they are mostly in Melbourne, it seems
> to me. I would say the influences are definitely there in the playing of
> many Aussie musicians but most do not try to reproduce that band sound these
> days. I have some good Aussie mates who do not think New Orleans traditional
> jazz is alive and well in Australia, one who organised a tour down here by
> Sammy Rimington. He feels it would be difficult to find a band to back Sammy
> these days.
> 
> Just out of interest, do you think that The Buddy Bolden Revival Band
> recreates the earliest jazz sounds, or is it just another traditional jazz
> band after the likes of Ken Colyer? And how authentic was the "Governor"
> anyway? My apologies to my best mate, trumpet player Derek Winters, back in
> the U.K. who plays that style all the time and does is so well. To me, the
> style we call N.O. jazz has always been a bit of an anomaly and I have no
> idea what our American friends think it is.