[Dixielandjazz] Banjos
Gluetje1 at aol.com
Gluetje1 at aol.com
Thu Jan 28 12:30:05 PST 2010
Hi Allan,
I'll give you some of my thoughts and a few facts to get you started. May
I also suggest a mailing list of over 1000 international members as a group
focused on jazz banjo (four string of a variety of tunings.) That web
spot is:
>_http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/fourstringbanjo/_
(http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/fourstringbanjo/) <
It is rare to find banjoists tuning identical to soprano uke (G,C,E,A).
It is somewhat common to tune to what is called "Chicago" tuning/baritone
uke tuning/guitar tuning. Yes, that is the top four strings of a guitar, D,
G, B, E from lowest to highest.
The standard tenor banjo has from 17 to 19 frets, some have been made with
20. The 17 fret tenor is used primarily for Irish banjo, 1/5 lower tuning
compared to standard tenor and uses heavier strings.
Standard tenor tuning is: highest string A at 440 cpm, the oboe A for
orchestra, then D above middle C, G below middle C, C an octave below middle C.
(This tuning is in fifths, identical to the orchestral viola.)
The plectrum banjo, also called the long neck banjo, has 22 frets.
Standard tuning for this instrument is in thirds and fifths. The highest note is
the D a musical second above middle C, B below middle C, G, C. Note the
standard tuning on the 3rd & 4th strings are the same for tenor or plectrum.
I played standard tenor tuning for 10 years, switched to standard plectrum
for the chord voicings possible with the thirds and fifths. But then, I
get more personal kicks from altered chords than flying single string notes.
If you want to focus on rapid, single string improvisation, this is more
easily done on the tenor due to all strings being a fifth apart.
You can use either length neck for guitar tuning. There are advantages to
each.
Banjoists have and will argue till the cows come home and leave again on
the virtues of the various tunings. If you are one to study from
instruction books, they are far more common in tenor and plectrum tuning than in
guitar tuning. Of course they are all designed for right handed stringing, at
least to my knowledge.
Many left handers argue for playing "right handed", but some will always
disagree.
One good way to choose a tuning is to explore various artists on YouTube
whose playing styles you like and see what tuning they are playing.
It's of interest to me that the most significant artists; i.e., most famous
professionals, play either tenor or plectrum tuning, not guitar tuning.
I've never seen this adequately explained. And it may not matter to you at
this age and stage.
As far as shopping for a banjo, I would suggest the least expensive banjo
you can find with decent action. If you become committed to banjo, there's
plenty of time to shop both vintage and new someday down the road when you
are ready to know more what you want.
Ginny
In a message dated 1/28/2010 11:25:18 A.M. Central Standard Time,
allanbrown at dsl.pipex.com writes:
I bought a ukulele a few months ago and am really enjoying learning how to
play it. It has certainly helped to open up my understanding of the top
four strings of the guitar. I'm considering investing in a banjo and I
thought there may be a few on this list who could help me out with a couple of
questions I have.
I'm interested in a tenor banjo as it seems to works so well with
Dixieland style music. However, there appear to be all manner of lengths and tuning
systems and I'm a little confused. Is there a standard tuning that banjo
players use for playing jazz and does the tuning system depend on the
length/ number of frets the banjo has?
I note there is a "Chicago Tuning" which is like the top four strings of
the guitar (or ukulele), which is immediately appealing to me as I could
draw on my existing knowledge of guitar/ ukulele chords, but I'm unsure as to
whether any tenor banjo would support this tuning or not, as my cursory
research suggests that only the long necked tenor banjos do. But perhaps I'm
getting unnecessarily hung up on the "Chicago Tuning" and would be better
served by rolling my sleeves up and learning a different tuning system
altogether? What do you banjo players out there use?
I'm based in the UK and there appear to be a plethora of banjo shops - do
any of you have any suggestions as to what is a reasonable make of banjo
for a beginner. That said, I'd probably prefer to invest in something that'll
serve me in the longer term and has the potential of sounding half way
decent should I ever get any good on it.
Any help or advice greatly appreciated.
Allan Brown
(P.S. I'm a lefty.)
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