[Dixielandjazz] Goldie Lucas

[Harry Callaghan]

Robert:

After Steve Barbone clarified Goldie Lucas' gender, I believe it might have
been Bill
Haeslar (who always seems to come riding to the rescue like the U. S.
Cavalry)
who stated that his given name was Golden.

I spent a little bit of time trying to come up with an answer for Bob Smith
but
never even considered the Golden aspect.  I should have, as the Dallas
Cowboys
once had a football player named Golden Richards and I met a fellow right
here
in Houston, named Golden Edwards who at one time played for the Chicago
Bears

Of course, in my youth, I also knew a guy who owned Goldie's Liquor Store,
but
that was because his last name was Goldstein..

Good to hear that someone else uses Chilton's book for reference,  While I
don't
have the 1972 first edition, I do have a later one from 1978 and it rests on
a shelf
alongside my computer desk, along with the Feather/Gitler Encyclopedia of
Jazz
and George T. Simon's Big Bands..

I assure you that trio gets considerably more use than my Funk & Wagnall
Dictionary

So, we have another mystery solved.

Tides
HC.


On 2/23/10, ROBERT R. CALDER <serapion at btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> I should imagine Goldie was a nickname, in this case that of a man.
> . It is of course a Scottish surname, but there are all sorts of possible
> reasons why a non-white male might have been called Goldie, including the
> painful situation of the white author G. Lowes Dickinson, whose first given
> name was Goldsworthy. He might have had an extravagant West Indian name, he
> seems to have been based in New York and to have worked with Bingie Madison,
> in that saxophonist's own band and/ or under the names of King Oliver and
> Clarence Williams.
> Somebody with a good library of books about 1920s New York Jazz would have
> some answers.
> My ancient first edition of John Chilton's WHO'S WHO OF JAZZ mentions an
> unpublished autobiography of Madison.
>
>
> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:13:52 +0100
> From: Bob Smith <robert.smith at tele2.no>
> To: Jazz Dixieland <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Goldie Lucas
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> I'm wondering about the forename to Goldie Lucas who played banjo and
> guitar with King Oliver and Clarence Williams, I assumed that the forename
> "Goldie" belonged to the fair sex, but listening to the vocal trio (Lucas is
> a member) on the Chocolate Dandies' recordings, I can't hear a female voice,
> Google dudn't help, and neither do any of the jazz books that I have.
> Can anybody help me with this question of whether Lucas was male or female?
>
> Bob Smith
>
>
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