[Dixielandjazz] Dick Hyman with BG (was Benny Goodman, Teddy Wilson, Jess Stacy)

Sat Aug 14 08:43:49 PDT 2010

NO biopic of a swing era musician was as bad as "The Fabulous Dorseys."

Hal Vickery

> From: vinnyn at verizon.net
> To: hvickery_80 at msn.com
> CC: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Dick Hyman with BG (was Benny Goodman, Teddy Wilson, Jess Stacy)
> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:27:21 -0400
> 
> 
> I think that scene is when he first arrives in NY.
> When I was a kid I would sit glued to the television just to catch the
> musical sequences (still enjoy the drumming on them) but of all the Big Band
> Bio Pics the Gene Krupa Story is close to rock bottom in terms of accuracy
> of the mans life, awful script and acting.
> Well I guess it's a toss up between this and the Dorsey Bros bio pic.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com
> [mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com] On Behalf Of Hal Vickery
> Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 11:12 AM
> To: Vinny
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Dick Hyman with BG (was Benny Goodman, Teddy
> Wilson, Jess Stacy)
> 
> 
> I haven't seen "The Gene Krupa Story" in decades, but I seem to remember a
> scene where Sal Mineo as Gene arrives at an apartment where a bunch of
> musicians are gathered.  From the chronology of the story, it probably would
> have been in the mid-'30s.  The host introduces one of the musicians:  You
> know Bix Beiderbecke, don't you?"  The odd thing was that Bix was on his
> feet instead of flat on his back six feet underground.
> 
> Hal Vickery
> 
> > From: vinnyn at verizon.net
> > To: hvickery_80 at msn.com
> > CC: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> > Subject: RE: [Dixielandjazz] Dick Hyman with BG (was Benny Goodman, Teddy
> Wilson, Jess Stacy)
> > Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:11:18 -0400
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I still can't understand why Hollywood had to fabricate these stories (BG
> > Glenn and Gene) when the actual life stories are fascinating to begin
> with.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com
> > [mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com] On Behalf Of Hal Vickery
> > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 3:44 PM
> > To: Vinny
> > Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Dick Hyman with BG (was Benny Goodman, Teddy
> > Wilson, Jess Stacy)
> > 
> > 
> > In the case of the Goodman story, the phrase made more sense.  It led to
> his
> > naming "Don't Be That Way" as they were making out the program for the
> > Carnegie Hall Concert (notwithstanding the fact that the song had been
> > recorded by Chick Webb years before).  As I've already mentioned, I prefer
> > Allen's line, which he says at least a couple of times to Donna Reed, "Do
> > you like hot music?"
> > 
> > As for "Honestly Glenn," I think that stemmed from the fact that he was
> > driven by his pursuit of "the sound" to the point that he was oblivious to
> > everything, like June Allison was already engaged, etc.  
> > 
> > The Glenn Miller bio made for a better movie given the circumstances of
> his
> > death.  The Goodman biopic had to manufacture the fake falling in love
> > process between Goodman and Alice.  No previous marriage, no kids, no
> > getting married a few weeks after meeting.
> > 
> > Hal Vickery
> > 
> > > From: vinnyn at verizon.net
> > > Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:47:08 -0400
> > > Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Dick Hyman with BG (was Benny Goodman,
> Teddy
> > Wilson, Jess Stacy)
> > > CC: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> > > To: hvickery_80 at msn.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I never understood why both "The Glenn Miller Story" and "The Benny
> > Goodman
> > > Story" had to have a catch phrase in them.
> > > 
> > > In the BG picture some one always say's "Ah Benny DON'T BE THAT WAY"
> > > In The Miller Bio June Allison's constantly saying "Honestly Glenn"
> > > 
> > > Gotta admit though the music scenes in both films (and the Krupa bio
> too,
> > a
> > > dog of film BTW} still knock me out.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com
> > > [mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com] On Behalf Of Harry
> > Callaghan
> > > Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 8:33 AM
> > > To: Vinny
> > > Cc: dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Dick Hyman with BG (was Benny Goodman,Teddy
> > > Wilson, Jess Stacy)
> > > 
> > > As movie bios go, usually highly fictionalized, I have to admit I rather
> > > enjoyed "The Benny Goodman Story" and particularly the manner in which
> > Steve
> > > Allen and Donna Reed portrayed James Stewart and June Allyson.
> > > 
> > > HC
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 8/13/10, Bill Haesler <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Harry Callaghan wrote:
> > > > > ........while I have the LP with Rosie that you describe here, it is
> > > > > not the one I was referring to with Hyman on piano........ it
> > > > > could have been a Capitol EP....
> > > >
> > > > Dear Harry,
> > > > You have me stumped (a cricket term).
> > > > Dick Hyman recorded with BG for Capitol, on the two days immediately
> > > > following the Rosemary Clooney Columbia date.
> > > > However, the two sessions featured the orchestra only. (Bobby
> Donaldson
> > > was
> > > > on drums.)
> > > > The album was released in conjuction with the film, "The Benny Goodman
> > > > Story".
> > > > It was reissued on CD by Capitol in 1995 with 5 bonus tracks. (I have
> > > > this).
> > > > The sides were released on EP.
> > > > Kind regards,
> > > > Bill.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
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