[Dixielandjazz] Old Cornet

Robert Ringwald rsr at ringwald.com
Tue Oct 6 11:12:50 PDT 2009


Elazar wrote:

The name on mine says J.W. Pepper.
>>
>> Someone I showed the horn to who is supposed to know such things said JW
>> Pepper was a music publishing company that used to buy horns with their own
>> name on them, and that this was a popular thing to do around the turn of the century.  


I suspect they sold the horns with their name on them.  

--Bob Ringwald




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Don Ingle" <cornet at 1010internet.com>
To: "Bob Ringwald" <rsr at ringwald.com>
Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Old Cornet


> Ministry of Jazz wrote:
>> Shalom Margaret,
>>
>> This sounds very much like a horn I bought on eBay a couple years ago. About
>> 100 years old, shepherd's crook, silver, and the leather case sounds exactly
>> like what mine came in. Mine was/is in pretty good condition, possibly
>> refurbished before I got it. The name on mine says J.W. Pepper.
>>
>> Someone I showed the horn to who is supposed to know such things said JW
>> Pepper was a music publishing company that used to buy horns with their own
>> name on them, and that this was a popular thing to do around the turn of the
>> last century. You might check out this possibility with your horn, that is,
>> check if the name could have been a music publisher that sold instruments in
>> their own name.
>>
>> My cornet is quite a nice horn, especially considering its age and the price
>> I paid for it.
>>
>> Elazar
>> Doctor Jazz Dixieland Band
>> Jerusalem, Israel
>> www.doctorjazz.co.il
>> +972-2-679-2537
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Margaret Squires [mailto:margeaux10 at yahoo.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:29 PM
>> To: dixieland jazz mail list
>> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
>> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Old Cornet
>>
>>
>> Can anyone help identify an old cornet?  It may be about 100 years old and
>> is in excellent condition. 
>>  
>> The name on the bell is difficult to read.  The first name is Jean.  The
>> last name on first glance looks like "Marleca" or "Marlecu".  But the "M"
>> could be a "W" and the "L" could be a "B".  The cornet has a laquer finish,
>> but we suspect it was originally silver.  Shepherd's crook, double spit
>> valve lever on the bottom of the horn, tuning slide stop rod.
>>  
>> The case is a satchel style with a flap that flips over the top and latches
>> and the cornet just rests in the case.  There is no padding in it.
>>  
>> Sound familiar to anyone?
>>  
>> Thank you for your help!
>>  
>> Margaret
>> Modesto, CA
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> I picked up an old cornet that sound quire like the one you described, 
> but it is barelyplayable andwas used mostly for a prop for photos.
> It was sold under the name of Wurlitzer,Chicago, who solda line of many 
> instruments under their name, but of what actual maker I do not know.
> I also have a metal clarinet I bought off of Jazz Ltd. house bandmate 
> Barrett Deems in the '6o's. Barrett was always "selling" somthing he'd 
> picked up and bugged every body on the band into trying to unload 
> something. I finally told him I'd give him two bucks for it if he'd just 
> shut the hell up about it. He took it and the piece of junk, sold as a 
> school band instrument in some past time under the Name of Illini (short 
> for Illinois). It,too has been used for photo setups.
> My personal horn is an older Conn Victor Cornet - for me the best horn 
> of its kind I ever had, though I have three other good ones. Friend 
> Wayne Jones, a drummer, had three Victors- for what reason other than 
> collectingI don't know, since he is one of the best and tastiest 
> Chicago-style and trad jazz drummers I ever worked with (he listens 
> intently to the players, never over plays, and even seems to breath 
> together with the wind players.)
> One can get caught up in collecting horns. Sincere retiring from active 
> playing a year ago, I often wonder when my own EBAY sale will occur; but 
> for now I may just concentrate on my old idea of making boutique lamps 
> out of the stash of brass. My valve trombone would make a good chandelier!
> Happy new year in your part of the world,
> Don  Ingle
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