[Dixielandjazz] Pops Foster, Bird, Dizzy and Trane
rsr at ringwald.com
Wed Nov 4 14:51:37 PST 2009
I cannot imagine Foster working with COLTRANE..
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen G Barbone" <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
To: "Bob Ringwald" <rsr at ringwald.com>
Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 2:05 PM
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Pops Foster, Bird, Dizzy and Trane
>> "Robert Ringwald" <rsr at ringwald.com> wrote:
>>> Steve barbone wrote: Pops? Foster's solid bass fiddle playing
>>> provided the beat for jazz
>>> legends from 'King' Oliver to Charlie Parker.
>> Steve, I am curious. When did Foster play or record with Charlie
>> Parker? Must have been in Parker's very early years, before he got
>> into Bee-Bop?
>> BTW- I had the pleasure of knowing pops and working with him several
>> times. A nicer guy you would never meet.
> Dear Bob:
> I was quoting Jim Cullums Riverwalk jazz program which said Pops
> played with Charlie Parker. I think their source was his autobiography
> where Pops says the following: (page 194) (capitals below are mine to
> highlight the reference)
> " I used to play at Mintons in New York before Dizzy Gillespie and
> Charlie Parker worked there. I was fronting a little group when Teddy
> Hill took over the management. Teddy was sore at me, and so he fired
> my band. I PLAYED WITH
> DIZ AND CHARLIE; both of them were great. Diz could do all that
> crazy stuff on his horn, and then stop and play a whole lot of
> trumpet. He'd do more crazy stuff on his horn than anybody. Diz and
> Charlie started all that stuff they're doing today. It was a symphony
> kind of music. Those two guys didn't overdo it, and they were the best
> that played that kind of music. Charlie used to drink a lot but, but I
> never saw him take dope. Diz always loves to get me to sit and talk to
> him about the old times."
> Teddy Hill took over Mintons in late 1940 and at that time, Bird (and
> Diz) were playing Bebop. (Kenny Clarke, perhaps the first bebop
> drummer had been in a small group with Diz in 1939 where they first
> formulated the genre)
> Even more astonishing perhaps is the below excerpt from Jazz
> Encyclopedia.com. (once again the Caps are mine)
> "In addition to his work with Hines, Foster worked consistently with a
> number of small groups and pick up bands, primarily in the traditional
> New Orleans style, though he did at one time perform with tenor
> saxophonist JOHN COLTRANE. . ."
> Seems old Pops got around. <grin>
> Steve Barbone
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