[Dixielandjazz] Hot jazz piano?

ROBERT R. CALDER serapion at btinternet.com
Sun Jul 26 17:45:02 UTC 2009


I would leave such hooey with the WHO!
Anybody who tips water over the idiot Japanese performer on the ex-piano has my full endorsement and congratulation. 
Banjo? 
No, ban him! 
 


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Subject: Dixielandjazz Digest, Vol 79, Issue 35
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Date: Sunday, 26 July, 2009, 1:00 PM


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Today's Topics:

   1. The Ultimate "HOT" Jazz piano (Stephen G Barbone)
   2. Third Try (rahberry at comcast.net)
   3. Ma Rainey (Anton Crouch)
   4. Rounder CDs - Morton/LoC (Anton Crouch)
   5. Re: Ma Rainey (Glen Page)
   6. Re: The Ultimate "HOT" Jazz piano (john petters)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:45:36 -0400
From: Stephen G Barbone <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>
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Subject: [Dixielandjazz] The Ultimate "HOT" Jazz piano
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This guy knows how to play hot jazz piano. Great technique.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7C8I_3HHaQ&feature=related

Cheers,
Steve Barbone
www.myspace.com/barbonestreetjazzband








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Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:20:39 +0000 (UTC)
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http://www.sftradjazz.org/events.htm 


DJMRers: 
This is my third try to get this to you. 
I h o p e t h e t h i r d t i m e ' s a c h a r m . 
-- Rae Ann 

http://www.sfraeann.com 
http://www.youtube.com/sfraeann 
http://www.craigventresco.com 


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:22:45 +1000
From: Anton Crouch <anton.crouch at optusnet.com.au>
To: Robert Smith <robert.smith at tele2.no>
Cc: DJML <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>,    Bill Haesler
    <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Ma Rainey
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Hello Bob

Bill's probably off enjoying himself (playing jazz and drinking beer on
a Sunday afternoon) so I thought I'd offer an interim answer to the "See
see rider" question.

Dixon, Godrich and Rye (who can be trusted) give:

1925-1,-2  See See Rider Blues  New York City  c. 16 October 1924
Acc. Her Georgia Jazz band: Louis Armstrong, c; Charlie Green, tb;
Buster Bailey, cl; Fletcher Henderson, p; Charlie Dixon, bj.

There is no percussion on this track.

There is only one recording and I'd guess that your notation has varied
between "See see rider" and "See see blues", when the full title is "See
see rider blues".

A controversial question for our blues enthusiasts - is there also an
alto sax playing on Rainey's "See see rider blues" ?

All the best,
Anton








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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:05:21 +1000
From: Anton Crouch <anton.crouch at optusnet.com.au>
To: Mike Meddings <mike_meddings at yahoo.com>
Cc: DJML <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Rounder CDs - Morton/LoC
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Hello Mike

My Rounder CD 1893 (CD 5 in Box 1888) also truncates Part 6 of "The 
murder ballad".

Why do record producers fiddle like this? In this case, it's utterly 
trivial and could not possibly have any effect on marketability. It 
certainly isn't an example of scholarship in action.

I like to hear the run-in and run-out surface noise  :-)

DJMLers might like to give their own examples of editing of 78 rpm 
re-issues.

My favourite (if that's the right word) is the 1997 Retrieval CD RTR 
79012 - Tommy Dorsey and his Clambake Seven. Track 17 is given as "If 
the man in the moon" and a note says "The vocal chorus has been omitted 
from matrix 013525-1 for reasons of taste".

Not only has Jack Leonard's vocal been removed but the producers 
couldn't even bring themselfs to print the full title of the piece - "If 
the man in the moon was a coon".

All the best,
Anton







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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 21:43:46 -0700
From: "Glen Page" <gpage at shaw.ca>
To: "'Anton Crouch'" <anton.crouch at optusnet.com.au>
Cc: 'DJML' <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>,    'Bill Haesler'
    <bhaesler at bigpond.net.au>
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Ma Rainey
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Hi all, 
How refreshing to see a real blues singer being discussed here.

I tried to  cast some light on Bob's request, Ma is my favourite female
blues singer and I started to seriously collect her recordings in the late
1950s
I have checked the available resources that I have on hand but cannot come
up with anything of significance. I do however have written on the back of
the sleeve of the London LP that Bob referred to that Lovie Austin was the
pianist for the 3 Rainey tunes on the record. After checking both Rust and
Godrich and Dixon there is no mention of this possibility and I cannot
recall where I got this information from originally.

The title given in these books and also "Mother Of The Blues, A Study Of Ma
Rainey", which is the doctoral thesis of the author Sandra Lieb is
consistently "See See Rider Blues". There were 2 takes recorded. The first
one being that released at the time.

I will have to pull the disc out to see what I think about the possibility
of an also sax being present. Perhaps somebody with access  to Tom Lord's
discography could check to see if any other possibilities exist. If somebody
comes up with anything new they will be kind enough to let us all know.

Cheers,
Glen.





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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:00:49 +0100
From: john petters <jdpetters at btinternet.com>
To: Stephen G Barbone <barbonestreet at earthlink.net>,     dixieland Jazz
    Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] The Ultimate "HOT" Jazz piano
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Now we want to see a banjo player doing the same thing!

Stephen G Barbone wrote:
> This guy knows how to play hot jazz piano. Great technique.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7C8I_3HHaQ&feature=related
> 
> Cheers,
> Steve Barbone
> www.myspace.com/barbonestreetjazzband
> 
> 
> 
> 
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