[Dixielandjazz] By Ned, we invented the genre:

[David Gannett]

Man, no one, and I mean NO ONE plays Mozart, Beethoven or Strauss like the Vienna Phil!
I began my career in the classical field and I swear I could tell the difference between European orchestras and others - they do, in fact, play the music better.  Who plays opera better than the Italians?  Who plays polka music better than the Germans and Bavarians?  Who plays Mariachi better than Latinos?  While I understand the point you're trying to make, mine still stands and can be verified by the an attuned ear.

dg


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marek Boym" <marekboym at gmail.com>
> To: "David Gannett" <evidence at otelco.net>
> Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] By Ned, we invented the genre:
> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:14:30 +0300
> 
> 
> >
> > > David Gannett said
> > >
> > > BY NED, WE INVENTED THE GENRE and play it BETTER than any other musicians
> > > from anywhere else, because it's our own, home-grown music!
> > >
> >
> > And then the fun started. <grin>
> >
> > BTW, Dave, I'm with you. Having grown up in NYC among the GIANTs, IMO, there
> > has never been the equal of the Condon Bands et al, anywhere in the world
> > since.
> >
> > Some US bands are close, and some are re-inventing the genre, especially the
> > young buskers out there on the streets these day. No doubt they annoy the
> > purists but then, that's the way it always was in jazz. The new folks annoy
> > the old folks.
> >
> > Listmates who heard the many different players/ bands at Condon's joint on
> > 3rd Street in the 1940s, 50s know exactly what I am talking about. It was
> > pure energy. And those who listen to todays US bands (I'm talking about the
> > buskers) are hearing the beginnings of a relevant Dixieland movement among
> > the young.
> >
> > While I agree with the Aussies that Bob Barnard is wonderful, I would also
> > opine  that Jon Erik Kellso, Randy Reinhart, Randy Sandke, Ed Polcer and
> > countless other American jazz musicians, that most of us have never heard
> > of, like Al Harrison, are also wonderful. To say nothing of the younger crop
> > of musicians like Jonathan Russell.
> 
> All of which does not mean that foreign bands and musicians are not as
> good, or better (as far as organized bands go - probably better).
> Most European bands do not sound like a pastiche of a past era, but
> rather reinvent the music like their American counterparts.
> 
> Plus, some of the top American musicians are expat Europeans: Tiony
> Pringle, Keith Ingham, Derek Smith and, if my memory is not playing
> tricks on me, Sonny Leyland.
> 
> Saying that jazz was invented by Americans and hence Americans play it
> better is tantamount with saying that, since classical music and opera
> originated in Europe, Europeans must play it better than americans or
> Asians; yet a big proportion of the new classical stars does not come
> from Europe.
> 
> Cheers
> 
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