[Dixielandjazz] Gene Schroeder Pronunciation - Redux
Stephen G Barbone
barbonestreet at earthlink.net
Tue Sep 9 13:41:35 PDT 2008
For those interested in the trivia of how Schroeder is pronounced in
the USA: These from various internet sources and the Schroeder
genealogy page thread on its pronunciation. There are several
pronunciations in use, and below are the two most common.
Manfred Schroeder schray duhr.
Dorothy Schroeder schrad er as in schray dhur
Patricia Schroeder schrod er as in Schroad duhr
Ricky Schroeder schrod er as in Schroad duhr
William Schroeder schrad er as in Schray duhr
Why the difference? Several theories according to the genealogy page,
these from different Schroeders who posted there:.
1) All my life I was taught that the correct pronunciation is
Schrayder. When visiting other Schroeders, some pronounce it
Schroader. I've been told 3 different reasons why this is so.
a) To differentiate between the German and Swiss branches of the
b) To differentiate between the Catholic and Protestant branches of
c) One pronunciation means "tailor" or "cloth ripper", the other means
"shredder" of "crusher"
2) The original name was no doubt Schroder (with an umlaut over the "o")
a) There is no umlaut in English so the spelling was changed to oe
b) Then when some came to America, they spelled it Schrader to make it
c) During WW 2, some made sure to pronounce it Schray dhur to sound
Then, to confuse it more, one Schroeder said it could even be
pronounced like the oe in Goethe's name. He says the sound is made
with the lips rounded or pursed in the position of an 'O" as in over
while trying to say an "A" as in able.
As to what Gene Schroeder himself preferred, I worked about 30 gigs
with him over a summer in the late 1950s. He was introduced to me as
Schray dhur by his very good friend, bassist and our band mate Chuck
Traeger. (Tray ghur). <grin> We always introduced him to the audience
and fans/friends as Schray dhur.
Musical content other than Gene? Some say potayto and some say
potahto, from "Let's Call The Whole Thing Off".
Gene Schroeder, a wonderful stride pianist as well as a wonderful man,
passed away in early 1975.
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