[Dixielandjazz] Jimmy Cleveland

[Marek Boym]

Hello Stan,
Just to be certain, do you like the music of either or both Johnson and
> Cleveland
Not really; that's why I have joined a DIXIELAND mailing list, not a
bebop or modern mailing list.  I love swing, yes; I listen to Charlie
Parker and Diz, but then, it's like with BG, who, having said he did
not like bebop, was confronted with "But you employ Wardell Gray, who
plays bebop" (quoted from memory), to which he replied "If what
Wardell plays is bebop, then I like bebop."
I did not invent the term; radio OKOM defines the term differently,
and I have taken the term from there.  To them and to me, it conveys
"traditional" (to me, this includes swing).
Cheers

On 02/09/2008, Stan Brager <sbrager at socal.rr.com> wrote:
> Marek;
>
> The problem is with the term OKOM ("Our Kind Of Music") which is presumptive
> without having been defined to include specific styles of jazz or other
> forms of music for that matter. Both JJ Johnson and Jimmy Cleveland are
> included in "My Kind Of Music" and in Marty's kind of music as well. We
> agree on, at least, these two jazz musicians.
>
> Just to be certain, do you like the music of either or both Johnson and
> Cleveland?
>
> Stan
> Stan Brager
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marek Boym [mailto:marekboym at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 3:20 PM
> To: Marty Nichols; Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com
> Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Jimmy Cleveland
>
> But neither Johnson nor Cleveland played OKOM (the latter - more so).
> Cheers
>
> On 29/08/2008, Marty Nichols <marnichols at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Stan Brager posted:
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:12:55 -0700
> > From: "Stan Brager" <sbrager at socal.rr.com>
> > Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Jimmy Cleaveland
> > To: "DJML" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>,    <Duke-lym at concordia.ca>
> > Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
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> > According to his Wiki, trombonist Jimmy Cleveland died last Saturday -
> > August 23, 2008. A marvelous bop trombonists with great chops capable of
> > covering the entire range of the horn with apparent ease.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Cleveland
> >
> > Stan
> > Stan Brager
> >
> > In my book Jimmy Cleveland is probably the most "unsung hero of the
> trombone" , and this among many, many other giants of the trombone who get
> little recognition for their efforts in jazz. I still feel pain when I
> remember that the Ken Burns jazz thing (what was it called?) omitted mention
> of the great J. J. Johnson except for a photo of J.J. in a session with
> Miles Davis. But that is off the subject; Jimmy Cleveland was another great
> that too few got a chance to hear IMO.
> >
> > Marty Nichols
> > http://www.esnips.com/web/jazztrombone
> >
> >
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