[Dixielandjazz] Rice Horns
Marek Boym
marekboym at gmail.com
Sat Mar 22 15:52:25 PDT 2008
Avraham Felder from the Isradixie Band often plays a toy cornet.
Cheers
On 14/03/2008, Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis
<larrys.bands at charter.net> wrote:
> My friend, Gary Dammer, who gave it to me has a Conn and he sounds pretty
> good on it but he doesn't use it a whole lot. Truthfully I think he uses it
> when his chops get tired. When he told me he had one I could have I thought
> it would look like it had been through Katrina.
>
> This horn's sound is I am sure typical of valve bones. I guess I am just
> surprised at what is coming out of China and the far East. The workmanship
> is very good on this instrument. It remains to be seen if the plating on
> the valves holds up and things that may not be visible. All of the slides
> are very smooth and it's a fairly heavy horn.
>
> A few weeks ago the owner at St. Louis Brass and Woodwind Repair was selling
> Pocket Trumpets and Cornets. Unfortunately I don't remember the brand but
> they were excellent horns. The remarkable thing about the Pocket Trumpets
> is that they played in tune and sounded good even for me. They had a full
> size bell too. When word got around he had a sell out. Several of the
> absolute best players here jumped on them and especially since the price was
> below $300.
>
> A funny thing happened when Gary was trying the Pocket horn. He put some
> power behind it and blew the second valve slide across the room. No damage
> and the shop corrected the problem.
>
> He said he bought the bone at a trade show and vendors often sell out their
> supplies, at a good price, rather than transport them back but it's
> unbelievable that they would sell a horn for $100.
>
> Brass instruments are sort of a hobby with me. I play OK but in no stretch
> could I be called an accomplished player. I consider anything above E to be
> a major accomplishment. I just enjoy fooling with them and I used to play
> brass a lot, playing along, with beginners. The brass community has little
> to fear that I might take their jobs anytime in this life.
> Larry
> StL
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Stoddard" <dhs2 at peoplepc.com>
> To: "Larry Walton" <larrys.bands at charter.net>
> Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 11:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Rice Horns
>
>
> > Larry wrote: A friend gave me a valve bone this morning that he had bought
> > at a show for $100. He's a great trumpet player that occasionally doubles
> > on valve bone. He compared it to his Conn and said it wasn't as good. (no
> > kidding). He wasn't using it so he gave it to me.
> >
> > Anyway it's of fairly good workmanship, looks great and plays pretty well
> > in tune for a valve bone. The voice is a little small but I'm not a
> > trombone player so it may be me. It has a nice mellow tone.
> > ====================================
> > Chances are, Larry, that the voice would be a little on the small side
> > regardless of the player. Most valve trombones are built with small
> > bores. Add that to the additional bends the air must travel through
> > compared to a slide trombone, and the sound is generally pretty narrow.
> >
> > My Conn Victor is a really nice valve trombone for jazz. Over the years I
> > have learned to get a really good sound out of it. The tone is brilliant
> > but warm. It is fairly narrow, and serves best in a small jazz ensemble.
> > This horn doesn't fit in well with a big band trombone section or a string
> > orchestra. I have been looking for bigger bore valve trombones for years
> > without finding anything suitable.
> >
> > Once upon a time instrument manufacturers built valve trombones in a
> > variety of sizes and bores. Those days came to an end some time ago. My
> > recent Internet searches have turned up a plethora of small-bore horns but
> > nothing else.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave Stoddard
> > Round Rock, TX
> >
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