[Dixielandjazz] Audentior -- sapere aude!

[sep troelstra]

Being relatively new to the list and mainly lurking so far, yesterday I found out that I have to use the "reply all" option to get a message to the list (I'm on other lists where the simple "reply" does the job), so my mail only got to the inquirer Gerard Bielderman, which is ok of course.

The funny thing indeed is that you find both spellings "audentior" and "audientor" (even in the same Latin phrases), whereas my conclusion (along with Robert Calder) would be that only one can ce correct. My high school Latin also dates from many years ago, but I would also go for "audentior". This is supported by the number of Google hits: 15,200 for audentior and only 914 for audientor.

Sep
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ROBERT R. CALDER 
  To: sep troelstra 
  Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List 
  Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2008 12:34 AM
  Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Audentior -- sapere aude!


  JAZZ CLASSICS???????
  Audentior  ---  not in English dictionaries because Latin

  it means 'more daring'  -- Sousa went in for Latin tags to name compositions. 

  and is a part of the word from which the words audacious and audacity derive.   'sapere aude' in my subject line means 'dare to know' (I'm in a line of work where one comes across such snippets).

  'Audentior' can also be found in one and another coat of arms, those legends which in nobler times were posted where these days one finds www.ebaddress.es 

  Audientior might be an adjective applying to someone who listens more, and then again it might not   -- this seems unlikely  but it's been a long time since the  Classics classroom!  
  Audientor just seems improbable. 
   

         
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