[Dixielandjazz] Conrad Janis' New Film
Stephen G Barbone
barbonestreet at earthlink.net
Sun Jul 20 17:00:36 PDT 2008
On Jul 20, 2008, at 5:57 PM, Marek Boym wrote:
> Hello Steve,
> You say "It is a great pity that most of the Dixieland output of these
>> mainstream players was not recorded, possibly because the record
>> companiescouldn't see the value of it. (Black mainstreamers
>> playing Dixieland)"
> Well, I remember the Wilbur de Paris Plays Cole Porter album (my
> favourite de Paris) being put down in the Jazz Journal on those
> grounds exactly - "what are those mainstreamers doing playing
> dixieland!" Another reason for discrediting that excellent
> recording was Lee Blair's banjo - why should mainstream musicians
> use a banjo in their band (while not a great banjo fan myself, I
> protested, arguing that, when played as Lee Blair did, the banjo was
> just great).
Hello Marek:
I saw Lee Blair with DeParis many times and loved his playing also.
Many of the reviewers thought at the time that DeParis had "a flawed
concept of Dixieland". I think because the DeParis brothers were big
band musicians who started to play Dixieland after the big band jobs
disappeared. . . and because they were Black.
Basically, DeParis had visited Janis' venues night after night, copied
the Janis book of tunes/arrangements and then undercut Janis' price at
Ryan's. The Janis band had asked for a small raise at the same time
DeParis quoted a price below their existing one. So, game over. Janis
was let go and DeParis hired.
That was a real turn about. Janis had originally copied Ory, then
DeParis copied Janis. But the Janis style changed as the mainstream
players (Black) he used injected some Kansas City swing and high
energy into his music with wonderful results.
While I preferred the various Janis bands myself, there is no question
that seeing Omer Simeon and Sidney DeParis in Wilbur's band at Ryan's
was also a treat.
I also remember Vic Dickenson being hammered in the reviews as "not
being a real Dixieland player". And hearing people say they didn't
like Roy Eldridge's Dixieland, some 20 years before you saw him. I
never could figure that out, having worked Dixieland with Roy when he
was near his peak as a musician. As well as with Coleman Hawkins. Both
played great Dixieland as far as I'm concerned.
For some reason back then, the media reviewers felt that Blacks played
"Small Band Jazz", or New Orleans Jazz while Whites played
"Dixieland". Even when the tunes, band make ups and styles were
virtually the same. The difference in descriptions started in the
1930s, as Sudhalter points out in "Lost Chords,". From then on the
word "Dixieland" seemed to apply only to White bands as far as the
reviewers were concerned. Sudhalter also says the description
difference eventually came to be used by most fans.
Even today when people say no blacks play Dixieland. I just shake my
head. Especially since I had 3 blacks in my band Saturday Night and as
far as I'm concerned we played Dixieland.
When I go down my call list, I could easily front a Black Dixieland
Band with me as the only white and have done so a time or two this year.
Cheers,
Steve Barbone
www.barbonestreet.com
www.myspace.com/barbonestreetjazzband
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