[Dixielandjazz] Hot Dance

[Marek Boym]

Perhaps - but certainly not "hot dance," at least as it is used today.
 The band was not that big, after all.
And I must admit that I like its early recordings, even if they're not
as good as those with - and after - Armstrong.
Cheers


On 05/07/2008, jazzchops at isp.com <jazzchops at isp.com> wrote:
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> I think I'd be hard pressed to say Henderson was a jazz orchestra prior to
> the arrival of Louis Armstrong...
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> Cheers,
> Chris
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> > Right, Chris.
> > However, I have never seen Henderson being referred to as a "hot
> > dance" orchestra - always as a jazz orchestra.
> > Cheers
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> > On 03/07/2008, jazzchops at isp.com <jazzchops at isp.com> wrote:
> >> Steve, I'm not really interested in how the term is used for popular
> >> music
> >> today, nor am I interested in Carmen Electra or Brittany Spears. How
> >> ridiculous to bring that into this discussion, which has NOTHING to do
> >> with my post.
> >>
> >> Way before Brittany and Carmen, the term was used, as I mentioned in my
> >> previous post, to refer to music from the 1920s and 1930s that had jazz
> >> solos. It's been used in that manner for decades. I have record albums
> >> from the 1970s referring to the music using that term. Such titles as
> >> "Rare Hot Dance Bands," "Dime Store Hot Dance," "Hot Dance Bands of the
> >> 1920s," etc.
> >>
> >> No matter what you write, the music of the ODJB, King Oliver, was not
> >> referred to at the time as "hot dance." It was either referred to as
> >> jazz
> >> or as race music.
> >>
> >> I did a little search on the Internet, just to make sure I'm not losing
> >> my
> >> mind, and there are other people that use this term. Here's some quotes:
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> >> >From the Pasadena Roof Orchestra's website: "For over thirty years the
> >> Pasadena Roof Orchestra, based in the UK, has delighted audiences all
> >> over
> >> the world with its mix of swing and hot dance music."
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> >> Here's a website worth checking out: http://www.2multiples.com/hotdance/
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> >> Here's a quote from writer Scott Yanow regarding a CD by Isham Jones:
> >> "Isham Jones, best-known as an important songwriter, led a series of
> >> interesting bands during the 1920's and 30's. His 1929-31 edition
> >> essentially played hot dance music..."
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> >> >From the SFLindyHop website: "The ten piece Royal Society Jazz
> >> Orchestra
> >> plays authentic hot and sweet dance music of the 1920s and '30s..."
> >>
> >> You wrote, "So the point I try and make is that those words, or "trad
> >> jazz" or "hot dance" or whatever, are really meaningless." If there so
> >> meaningless, why are they being used? They're being used to describe
> >> different styles of music. They are just a useful as categories like New
> >> Orleans jazz, Chicago jazz, etc. Seems to me if those terms are
> >> meaningless, than the term dixieland must be, too.
> >>
> >> Steve, you contribute a great amount of interesting and useful
> >> information
> >> to the DJML. But I really don't understand what the point of your latest
> >> post was. Was it to put me down, or show us how clever you are? I wrote
> >> what I considered to be a thoughtful, intelligent explanation of the
> >> term
> >> "hot dance music," What did you do? Did you contribute something useful?
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> >> Regards,
> >> Chris Tyle
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