[Dixielandjazz] Individuality With Solos

[Marek Boym]

Could it have been that he never heard the original guys live?
Cheers

On 03/01/2008, Charles Kercher <ekercher at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> Amen and Amen,  Once while at a concert of a quintet playing all of
> Goodman's stuff an aquaintance of mine shook his head in wonder and said,
> "That is the best I've ever heard!!!  I shook my head in wonder also but my
> wonder was different when I asked, "What did you think of the original
> guys?"    Whew!!!   chuck
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert S. Ringwald" <robert at ringwald.com>
> To: <ekercher at tampabay.rr.com>
> Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 12:24 PM
> Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Individuality With Solos
>
>
> > Larry Walton wrote:
> >
> > >A friend of mine who was the principal clarinet player with the St. Louis
> >> Symphony had a band that played a lot of Goodman stuff.  The solos were
> >> all transcriptions and the musicians were wonderful.  They played the
> >> tunes exactly like the originals.  I thought it was great as a listener
> >> but I never stood in line to be in that band.
> >>
> >> I speak for myself.  I haven't heard anyone improve on the Miller solos
> >> and I prefer them well played to the musings of other people.  Have I
> >> played jazz through the solos.  Yes but when I am the listener I prefer
> >> the Miller solos.  Do I improve on them?  No not any more than I could
> >> improve on Mozart.
> > (snip)
> >
> > Larry,
> >
> > I understand that you like to hear certain solos played as written,
> > especially when they are the classics.  I agree.
> >
> > This brings up something to ponder.
> >
> > We only hear the classic solos and actually, let's include the classic
> > arrangements, on recordings.  No matter how good a recording is, or the
> > playback system is, it still is not the same as hearing it live.
> >
> > Thus, I thrill when I hear certain classic arrangements and solos played
> > live.  Needless to say, when they are done well.
> >
> > On this list, I must qualify this statement so no one misunderstands what
> > I
> > am saying.
> >
> > I don't mean this for all old arrangements nor for all old solos.  Just
> > certain ones.
> >
> > For instance, I love to hear the opening cadenza on West End Blues.  Why
> > should I only hear it on a recording?  I personally can't see playing that
> > tune without the cadenza.  Without it, it is not West End Blues.
> >
> > Same thing for the ending on Goodman's Avalon.
> >
> >
> > By the same token, I love the GRP's take on "Sing Sing Sing," which is
> > certainly not a recreation.  I wonder if you have heard it?  On the same
> > recording is a version of Cherokee with 5-trumpets, including Arturo
> > Sandoval, trading chorus's, 8s and 4s, which is
> > not to be believed.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > --Bob Ringwald
> > Fulton Street Jazz Band
> > See our new CD at www.ringwald.com/recordings.htm
> >
> >
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