[Dixielandjazz] Individuality With Solos

Charles Kercher ekercher at tampabay.rr.com
Wed Jan 2 20:20:49 PST 2008


Amen and Amen,  Once while at a concert of a quintet playing all of 
Goodman's stuff an aquaintance of mine shook his head in wonder and said, 
"That is the best I've ever heard!!!  I shook my head in wonder also but my 
wonder was different when I asked, "What did you think of the original 
guys?"    Whew!!!   chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert S. Ringwald" <robert at ringwald.com>
To: <ekercher at tampabay.rr.com>
Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 12:24 PM
Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Individuality With Solos


> Larry Walton wrote:
>
> >A friend of mine who was the principal clarinet player with the St. Louis
>> Symphony had a band that played a lot of Goodman stuff.  The solos were
>> all transcriptions and the musicians were wonderful.  They played the
>> tunes exactly like the originals.  I thought it was great as a listener
>> but I never stood in line to be in that band.
>>
>> I speak for myself.  I haven't heard anyone improve on the Miller solos
>> and I prefer them well played to the musings of other people.  Have I
>> played jazz through the solos.  Yes but when I am the listener I prefer
>> the Miller solos.  Do I improve on them?  No not any more than I could
>> improve on Mozart.
> (snip)
>
> Larry,
>
> I understand that you like to hear certain solos played as written,
> especially when they are the classics.  I agree.
>
> This brings up something to ponder.
>
> We only hear the classic solos and actually, let's include the classic
> arrangements, on recordings.  No matter how good a recording is, or the
> playback system is, it still is not the same as hearing it live.
>
> Thus, I thrill when I hear certain classic arrangements and solos played
> live.  Needless to say, when they are done well.
>
> On this list, I must qualify this statement so no one misunderstands what 
> I
> am saying.
>
> I don't mean this for all old arrangements nor for all old solos.  Just
> certain ones.
>
> For instance, I love to hear the opening cadenza on West End Blues.  Why
> should I only hear it on a recording?  I personally can't see playing that
> tune without the cadenza.  Without it, it is not West End Blues.
>
> Same thing for the ending on Goodman's Avalon.
>
>
> By the same token, I love the GRP's take on "Sing Sing Sing," which is
> certainly not a recreation.  I wonder if you have heard it?  On the same
> recording is a version of Cherokee with 5-trumpets, including Arturo 
> Sandoval, trading chorus's, 8s and 4s, which is
> not to be believed.
>
> Best,
>
> --Bob Ringwald
> Fulton Street Jazz Band
> See our new CD at www.ringwald.com/recordings.htm
>
>
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