[Dixielandjazz] Black members of Jazz Ltd in my time as trumpet chir

[Marek Boym]

Hello Don,
All the musicians you've mentioned were veterans of at least the big
band era;  when people speak of the dearth of blacks in OKOM, they
mean NEW musicians, not just now, but commencing with the jazz revival
(1939 on).  Of course, New Orleans was an exception, and has over the
years produced such musicians as Freddy Lonzo, Mochael White and the
great Wendell Brunious.  Another well know one is Evan Christopher,
albeit an Orleanian by choice, not birth.  And when Michael White
played in Eilat, Israel, he had several young black musicians in his
band.
Cheers

On 29/08/2008, Don Ingle <dingle at nomadinter.net> wrote:
> Stephen G Barbone wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > eupher dude <eupher61 at hotmail.com> wrote (Polite Snip)
> > >
> > >
> > > I've often read on DJML that it's a shame more African American
> musicians don't play OKOM.  No wonder.  Yes, the current crop of "artists"
> (using the term loosely) have no problem with using slang, vernacular, and
> rhetoric that would draw a lawsuit against most non-black people.  That's
> fine.  They have no respect for themselves, tough, but I won't go down that
> road too.
> > >
> >
> > Folks, shouldn't put too much credence in DJML posts that blacks do not
> play OKOM. Nor should they stereotype "the current crop of artists".
> >
> > The concert our 6 piece Dixieland band played, with Jonathan Russell as
> our guest last Sunday, had 3 black OKOM players. The concert I did Monday
> had 4 black OKOM players. They are gentlemen as well as excellent jazz
> musicians; don't use "slang vernacular and rhetoric that would draw a
> lawsuit against most non black people" but probably would not be surprised
> such an unfair characterization by a white Dixielander.
> >
> > Sometimes I front a band version where all the other players are black.
> Same story.
> >
> > Point being, there are idiot musicians of every color, race, creed. And
> there are wonderful musicians of every color, race and creed. As a working
> jazz musician, with a network of both black and white jazz musicians,
> working every one of my 160 gigs this year with blacks in my band, I speak
> from actual experience, not some theory of pre determined opinion.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Steve Barbone
> > www.myspace.com/barbonestreetjazzband
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> During most of my five years in the house band at Chicago's Jazz Ltd. inthe
> '60's the black musicians I worked with were not "tokens", but just great
> players and good people I was proud to have as friends.
> At one time we had Freddie Kohlman on drums, Manny Sayles, banjo/guitar,
> Rozelle Claxton, piano, and Quinn Wilson on tuba - a veteran of Jelly Roll
> Morton's Chicago recoding dates and later Fatha Hines bassist in the 30's.
> With Bill Rhinhardt on clar, Jim Beebe on trombone and myself on trpt, we
> were outnumbered racially but never gave  a thought to it - too busy making
> Chicago Jazz the way it was suppoed to be. Jean and I were Godparents to
> Quinn's son Ronnie - and very proud that he and Opal would honor us so.
> I agree that you may not see many blacks playing this style these days - but
> hey, I don't see a lot of OKOM players playing either except in the remnant
> centers like Frisco and L.A. or NY.
> If a man can play and well and swing, who gives a flying fart if he is
> black, white or any color d'jour.
> Don Ingle
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