[Dixielandjazz] Fwd: Another Stake In The Heart ofProfessionalMusicians

Sun Apr 20 08:25:57 PDT 2008

Right on Bob. 
???? Further, if the piano players that you know Larry, are so unreliable, DON'T HIRE THEM. I don't like to see all of the great, reliable pianists being put down because of some jerk in St. Louis who cancels two days before the gig. 
???? For your information, I've never once walked out of a gig, or even threatened to do so. Nor have I missed or cancelled a job that I accepted, at least not one that I committed to without warning the leader that there might be a possibility of not getting back from out of town travel or the like. I turn down those gigs with a questionable aspect to them when I'm called so as to avoid having to cancel at "the last minute". 
???? All I can say, is that if you want to work with the "Big Boys", those players in high demand (like New York is full of), then stop your bitching when they can't make it. Pull up those big boy pants and deal with it.
???? Good grief!!!
Ed Metz

.Larry wrote:?
?
(snip)?
I have to confess to a certain amount of pleasure now that technology is?
catching up to even the kings of the music business.?
(snip)?
?
I can't believe that a working musician would be happy and have pleasure in?
seeing something that will put even more musicians out of business. Not?
just piano players but all musicians.?
?
--Bob Ringwald?

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert S. Ringwald <robert at ringwald.com>
To: Edmetzsr at aol.com
Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:00 am
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Another Stake In The Heart ofProfessionalMusicians

Larry wrote:?
?
(snip)?
I have to confess to a certain amount of pleasure now that technology is?
catching up to even the kings of the music business.?
(snip)?
?
I can't believe that a working musician would be happy and have pleasure in?
seeing something that will put even more musicians out of business. Not?
just piano players but all musicians.?
?
--Bob Ringwald?
?
?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Walton Entertainment - St. Louis" <larrys.bands at charter.net>?
To: "Bob Ringwald" <robert at ringwald.com>?
Cc: "1-DIXIELAND JAZZ POST" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>?
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 5:11 PM?
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Another Stake In The Heart?
ofProfessionalMusicians?
?
> First of all let me say I would rather play with live musicians than a?
> computer but having said that there have been times when I have wished for?
> my computer to magically appear on the stand because some dunce wasn't?
> doing?
> his job or more usually wasn't versatile enough to do a wide enough?
> variety?
> of tunes.?
>?
> The piano player for as long as I have been alive has enjoyed an almost un?
> broken reign as the king of the band. Without a good piano man the band?
> would suck. The demands made by many of them have caused a lot of heart?
> burn to me?
> personally over the years. It ranges from simply walking out in the?
> middle of the?
> job to demanding far more money than the gig even paid for the band. It?
> also includes such tricks as taking another gig a day or two out and?
> calling?
> at the last minute to simply not showing up.?
>?
> Over the years piano player antics have cost me a lot, if not always in?
> money, in good will.?
>?
> I have to confess to a certain amount of pleasure now that technology is?
> catching up to even the kings of the music business. What completely?
> amazes?
> me is that many are ignoring it. Most are completely resentful but not a?
> one ever felt sorry that a trumpet player or sax player might not be?
> working or care very much for what a leader might have to go through.?
>?
> One of the best piano players I know is using BIAB in his act. I am?
> really curious as to what he's doing with it. He's not only a great piano?
> man but is smart too. I think more piano men should have a digital plan?
> "B" out there if I were them. He's the only one that I know of is using a?
> computer and playing too.?
>?
> The band I have played with for almost 10 years is now for the most part?
> defunct. Why? The piano man has decided to take a gig in a piano bar.?
> This will happen as long as they can find better pay as a single?
>?
> I respect and want to work with guys that are good players but I also want?
> them to at least be loyal to the gig that they have accepted.?
>?
> Personally I find rhythm section guys to be a very mixed lot and the?
> biggest?
> problem is having a strong section because one poor player in the rhythm?
> section can wreck a band.?
>?
> I went to a medical center this afternoon and they had one of the player?
> grand pianos just setting there and plunking away. They seem to be?
> popular in medical buildings.?
> Besides being a great tax deduction it's cheaper in the long run to buy?
> the piano rather than the?
> piano and then hiring someone to play it. I will have to say that whoever?
> made the midi file (or whatever) wasn't the best piano player I had ever?
> heard. They might not have to pay for the use of the recordings either.?
> Larry?
> STL?
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <BillSargentDrums at aol.com>?
> To: "Larry Walton" <larrys.bands at charter.net>?
> Cc: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>?
> Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:21 AM?
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Another Stake In The Heart of?
> ProfessionalMusicians?
>?
>?
>> Payback is sweet.?
>>?
>> This is just payback for all those keyboard (piano) players who have put?
>> so?
>> many other instrumentalists out of work over the years. (Think drum?
>> machines,?
>> bass players, string players, etc.)?
>>?
>> The wheels of justice sometimes turn real slow, but thankfully they still?
>> turn.?
>>?
>> :-)?
>>?
>> Bill?
>> 414-777-0100?
>> BillSargentBands.com?
>>?
>> Just released: "The Best Of Bill Sargent Bands - Volume 1"?
>>?
>> Available at: http://billsargentbands.com/recordings.htm?
>>?
>>?
>>?
>>?
>>?
>>?
>>?
>>?
>> **************Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used?
>> car?
>> listings at AOL Autos.?
>> (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp00300000002851)?
>> _______________________________________________?
>> To unsubscribe or change your e-mail preferences for the Dixieland Jazz?
>> Mailing list, or to find the online archives, please visit:?
>>?
>> http://ml.islandnet.com/mailman/listinfo/dixielandjazz?
>>?
>>?
>>?
>> Dixielandjazz mailing list?
>> Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com?
>>?
>?
>?
>?
> _______________________________________________?
> To unsubscribe or change your e-mail preferences for the Dixieland Jazz?
> Mailing list, or to find the online archives, please visit:?
>?
> http://ml.islandnet.com/mailman/listinfo/dixielandjazz?
>?
>?
>?
> Dixielandjazz mailing list?
> Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com?
>?
?
_______________________________________________?
To unsubscribe or change your e-mail preferences for the Dixieland Jazz Mailing list, or to find the online archives, please visit:?
?
http://ml.islandnet.com/mailman/listinfo/dixielandjazz?
?
?
Dixielandjazz mailing list?
Dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com?