[Dixielandjazz] Perfect Tune To Learn Trad Soloing

[Paul Edgerton]

With all due respect Larry, if that advice came from your attorney,
you need better representation. IF a two-bar snippet of Yakkety Sax
during an improvised solo constitutes infringement, we're all headed
for the hoosegow.

Really.


-- Paul "Quotemeister" Edgerton



On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Larry Walton Entertainment - St.
Louis <larrys.bands at charter.net> wrote:
> I thought I would throw this in for those who might not know.  Chord lines
> alone cannot be copyrighted nor can titles of songs.  Only Melody lines,
> words and their associated chords can be copyrighted.  That's not to say the
> chords are copyrighted anymore than you can copyright a "C" scale. You can
> publish or sell chord sheets even with the title and without the melody all
> day long.  It's when you add words or melody to it you run into problems.
>
>  You might be playing a song out of copyright such as the Saints but the
> instant you quote another melody it becomes that melody for the length of
> time you are quoting.  For example I can play Yakety Sax during the Saints
> (same chord line).  While I am playing Yakety it becomes Yakety Sax and no
> longer is out of copyright.
>
>  They must have directly quoted the Teasing Rag on the RCA recording.
>
>  Reminds me of an engineer that worked where my dad worked.  The company
> manufactured large transformers.  The engineer instituted new ways of
> winding transformers.  Unfortunately the engineer had worked for
> Westinghouse and "borrowed" some of their technology that was patented.  It
> was several years before Westinghouse found out and they weren't happy
> campers.  The resulting lawsuit almost put the company out of business.  It
> took them years to pay off the suit and plus the added expense of licensing
> the Westinghouse technology.
>  Larry
>  StL
>  ----- Original Message ----- From: "PHIL WILKING"
> <philwilking at bellsouth.net>
>  To: "Larry Walton" <larrys.bands at charter.net>
>  Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:45 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Perfect Tune To Learn Trad Soloing
>
>
>
>
>
> > Incidentally, that 3rd strain is really the 3rd strain of a rag titled
> "That Teasing Rag." I have read that using it cost the Original Dixieland
> Jazz Band their RCA contract because they did not tell RCA they were using
> someone else's copyrighted music and RCA was hit with an infringement
> lawsuit.
> >
> > Phil Wilking
> >
> > Those who would exchange freedom for
> > security deserve neither freedom nor security.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Murdick"
> <kmurdick at jaguar1.usouthal.edu>
> >
> >
> >
> > > I'd never thought of it before but the 3rd section (the one you probably
> know) of  "The Original Dixieland One-
> > > Step"  may be the perfect vehicle for learning trad soloing.   It's got
> the two main elements of the style: the circle of 5ths in dominants and the
> last 8 bars of "Bill Bailey"
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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