[Dixielandjazz] Satchmo and H.L. Clarke

[tduncan]

Craig Johnson has created a handy index for songs available from
redhotjazz.com. Try http://www.mainely-jazz.com/rhsongs/songframes.html and
look under "W" for West End Blues. According to the recordings available
there, Armstrong recorded and played the cadenza with the Hot Five on
7-28-28. Oliver recorded West End Blues without the cadenza with the Dixie
Syncopaters on 7-11-28 and with cadenza with his later Orchestra (not the
Creole Jazz Band) on 1-16-29.

If those dates tell the tale, then Louis would appear to be the creator, or
at least the first recorder, of the cadenza. Bill Haesler or others with
greater discographical knowledge than I may have already weighed in on this
interesting thread . . . If not, Bill or others, do these dates hold up and
do they confirm that Louis created that great cadenza?

Regards,

Tom Duncan
Doctor Dubious and the Agnostics
PO Box 2118      Teaneck, NJ 07666
P   (201)836-6076     FAX   (201)833-4143
www.doctordubious.com
 


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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:19 PM
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Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Satchmo and H.L. Clarke

I put the message about Armstrong and Clarke on the TPIN, and got this reply
about West End Blues...
Interesting to say the least!
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Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 22:25:18 +0000
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Subject: Re: [TPIN] Armstrong and H.L.Clarke
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It has been my understanding that Joe "King" Oliver recorded (and composed)
that cadenza before Louis made his own recording of it.    Have I been
misinformed?

~Steve Hyde
> 
> > 
> > The article then talks about the cadenza from West End Blues. In the 
> > writer's opinion, by itself, the cadenza is more a display of 
> > classical virtuosity than jazz. It is only when the rest of the jazz 
> > tune is added that the cadenza could then be classified as jazz.


Warm regards,
Bob Romans,
1617 Lakeshore Dr.,
Lodi, Calif. 95242
Ph 209-747-1148
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