[Dixielandjazz] How did key tunes get into the standard dixieland repertoire?

[dwlit at cpcug.org]

Hi Dan. In my longer version of my question, I asked where Bunk, etc.,
relearned their old tunes, especially multi-strained ones that surely
required some intense effort.

Lo and behold, thumbing through your history, I found your section on
Bunk's early days, with a list of his tunes. If he was playing as often as
you say he did, then he probably had 'em down c-o-l-d, probably mainly
just had to tidy 'em up in the 40s...

--Sheik

> Hello all,
>                  As Sheik points out popular songs  are part of the
> history of jazz. Buddy Bolden played hit tunes of his day like Ida and
> Lazy Moon.
>                      Another early source was the religious music of the
> time. You can catch a video of the Buddy Bolden Revival Orchestra
> playing the Jubilee- Ride on King Jesus at:
>    http://www.esnips.com/web/BuddyBoldenRevivalOrchestra
>
> regards
> Dan Hardie
> website
> http://tinyurl.com/nqaup
>
> On Sunday, September 9, 2007, at 03:52  AM, dwlit at cpcug.org wrote:
>
>> By "standard Dixieland repertoire" I mean today's most commonly played
>> tunes.
>>
>> Let's ignore the 40s New Orleans and West Coast revivals, which
>> immeasurably broadened the possibilities. Or, we can take individual
>> revival tunes with early origins--eg Maryland my Maryland, 1919 March.
>> We
>> know they were old tunes, but how did Bunk, etc., reacquaint themselves
>> with them?
>>
>> Actually, my initial concern was tunes such as "When you're smiling",
>> which dates from 1928. Perhaps Armstrong's record was the jazz spark,
>> perhaps Noone's. How widely was Coon Sanders Orch. listened to by
>> jazzers?
>> If the tune was popular, why don't we have more records of it?
>>
>> It's not enough to identify the tunes as pop tunes. "I'm looking over a
>> 4-leaf clover" was recorded by Goldkette and Al Jolson, but not picked
>> up
>> by jazzers, yet it was a well-known "sing-along" tune even in the 50s.
>>
>> I've sort of backed into the question because when I can, I like to
>> "justify" playing a tune or putting it into one of my books by naming a
>> famous jazz figure who recorded it.
>>
>> The tunes are a basic part of the history of jazz, and jazz is part of
>> the
>> history of many pop tunes: who played what, where, when and why? Dan
>> Hardy
>> investigates some of this in his explorations of Buddy Bolden's music.
>>
>> --Sheik
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi Gang. How did key pop tunes come into the standard Dixieland
>>>  repertoire?
>>> Who introduced 'em, or made 'em popular enough so that dixielanders
>> adopted 'em? <snip>
>>> --Sheik"
>>>
>>>
>>> As I see it, many of the tunes in the Dixieland repertoire WERE the
>> popular tunes of the day. Others were written specifically, such as the
>> original raft of tunes by the ODJB. Eddie Condon used a lot of popular
>> tunes - Bing Crosby hits etc. What amazes me is how long they have
>> survived as Dixieland standards, especially as some of them are not
>> that
>> good.
>>> Graham Martin
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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