[Dixielandjazz] Question About Unions

Dave Hanson jazzdude39 at comcast.net
Tue Nov 6 11:17:49 PST 2007


If LA is a right to work state, a musician can be a member of a Symphony that has a Collective Bargaining Agreement and not be a Union member. They get the same pay and benefits plus its against state law to discriminate against them. Peer pressure from the union players usually results in them joining, but they don't have to.

Dave Hanson
Atlanta 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bill Allen 
  To: Dave Hanson 
  Cc: Dixieland Jazz Mailing List 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 12:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Question About Unions


  The union in Shreveport at one time was powerful - Pappy Hogan pistol
  whipped any club owner not using union bands or screwing union bands. When i
  joined Local 116 in 1972, our monthly newsletter required about 2 pages just
  to list the union bands playing, mostly on the "Bossier Strip". Now I could
  count the live bands on the strip on one hand, and probably have fingers
  left over.

  Also, you were required to be union to play in the Symphony, it was a
  "closed shop". Now the Union helps negotiate the Symphony contract, but,
  ironically, you don't HAVE to be union to play in the Symphony and reap the
  benefits of their work.

  Ah, those were the days!!!!


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Mike" <mike at railroadstjazzwest.com>
  To: "Mr. Bill" <ballen at deltapathology.com>
  Cc: "Dixieland Jazz Mailing List" <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 11:28 AM
  Subject: [Dixielandjazz] Question About Unions


  >
  > The recent thread has brought another union question to my mind.
  > Why are unions so powerful in the northeast and in other places
  > but not really in other states? I know that I'd like to see a
  > stronger musician's union presence here just like the grocery,
  > service employees and bus drivers have. As of right now, the
  > only union shops are the Colorado Symphony Orchestra, The
  > broadway plays at the Buell Theatre, the Denver Municipal Band
  > and a few others.
  >
  >
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