[Dixielandjazz] Struttin With Some Barbecue

Bill Haesler bhaesler at bigpond.net.au
Sun May 6 17:08:05 PDT 2007


> So I question who wrote what. Did the original composer credit say L. 
> Armstrong
> or Lillian Armstrong? In the back of my mind is a nagging feeling that 
> the
> composer credit was originally "L. Armstrong."

[Off list. Don't want to bore them!]
Dear Steve,
Herewith the label credits for all the Armstrong Hot Five 'n' Sevens as 
printed on the original 78 Okeh issues.
Unfortunately, it doesn't really answer the current question as to who 
wrote what.
I personally believe that all those titles shown [Hardin] are her 
definitely her compositions.
I have marked with an asterisk * the tunes I believe are Louis 
compositions.
All the other titles shown [Armstrong] I suspect/believe are Lil's.
Why? Just a feeling in my [musical] water, as they say. No real proof, 
other than Lil's claims in some instances.
However, I certainly accept that Louis' playing-genius would have 
transformed ALL the tunes into classics.
Another thought. If Louis had composer talent, how come it was never 
turned up or exploited by Fletcher Henderson in the year Louis 
(1924-25] was with him. Remember, Lil remained in Chicago for much of 
this time. Louis' playing from this period is magnificent, but often 
overlooked by all but Louis diehards. Like me.
I will send this off to Audrey Van Dyke later today, as she may have 
sheet music with copyright details to prove or disprove my thoughts on 
the matter. Then we can hit the list!

  My Heart [Armstrong]
  Yes! I'm In The Barrel [Armstrong]
  Gut Bucket Blues [Armstrong]
  Come Back, Sweet Papa [Barbarin-Russell]
  Georgia Grind [Williams]
  Heebie Jeebies [Atkins]
  Cornet Chop Suey [Armstrong*]
  Oriental Strut [St. Cyr]
  You're Next [Armstrong]
  Muskrat Ramble [Ory]
  Don't Forget To Mess Around [Barbarin]
  I'm Gonna Gitcha [Hardin]
  Dropping Shucks [Hardin]
  Who's It [Jones]
  The King Of The Zulus [Hardin]
  Big Fat Ma And Skinny Pa [Jones]
  Lonesome Blues [Hardin]
  Sweet Little Papa [Ory]
  Jazz Lips [Hardin]
  Skid-Dat-De-Dat [Hardin]
  Big Butter And Egg Man From The West [Venable]
  Sunset Cafe Stomp [Venable]
  You Made Me Love You [Venable]
  Irish Black Bottom [Venable]
  Willie The Weeper [Melrose-Bloom]
  Wild Man Blues [Armstrong-Morton] That's another story!
  Alligator Crawl [Waller]
  Potato Head Blues [Armstrong*] with Lil
  Melancholy Blues [-]
  Weary Blues Matthews]
  Twelfth Street Rag [Bowman] not released until 1942 on Columbia
  Keyhole Blues [-] Louis and Lil
  S.O.L. Blues [Armstrong*] with Lil. Not released until 1942 on Columbia
  Gully Low Blues [Armstrong*] with Lil
  That's When I'll Come Back To You [Biggs]
  Put 'Em Down Blues [Armstrong*]
  Ory's Creole Trombone [Ory] not released until 1942 on Columbia
  The Last Time [Ewing-Martin] not released until 1942 on Columbia
  Struttin' With Some Barbecue [Hardin]
  Got No Blues [Hardin}
  Once In A While [Butler]
  I'm Not Rough [Armstrong]
  Hotter Than That [Hardin]
  Savoy Blues [Ory]
  Fireworks [Williams]
  Skip The Gutter [Williams]
  A Monday Date [Hines]
  Don't Jive Me [Hardin] not released until 1942 on Columbia
  West End Blues [Oliver]
  Sugar Foot Strut [Piece-Myers-Scwab]
  Two Deuces [Hardin]
  Squeeze Me [Williams-Waller]
  Knee Drops [Hardin]
  No One Else But You [Redman]
  Beau Koo Jack [Hill-Armstrong*]
  Save It, Pretty Mama [Redman]
  Weather Bird [Armstrong*] not released until 1942 on Columbia
  Muggles [Armstrong-Hines]
  Heah Me Talkin' To Ya? [Armstrong*-Redman]
St. James Infirmary [Redman]
Tight Like This [Curl]
Mahogany Hall Stomp [Williams]

The following is the ASCAP list for ARMSTRONG LILLIAN HARDIN 	
1 .   BAD BOY
	   (Title Code: 320008077)
2 .   CEPICE
	   (Title Code: 030094292)
3 .   CLIP JOINT
	   (Title Code: 330333474)
4 .   DONT JIVE ME
	   (Title Code: 340061776)
5 .   FLAT FOOT
	   (Title Code: 360142918)
6 .   GOOBER DANCE
	   (Title Code: 370039360)
7 .   GOT NO BLUES
	   (Title Code: 370048109)
8 .   HAPPY TODAY SAD TOMORROW
	   (Title Code: 380012888)
9 .   HI DE HO MAN
	   (Title Code: 380048644)
10 .   HOT HOT BLUES
	   (Title Code: 380407783)
11 .   HOTTER THAN THAT
	   (Title Code: 380076373)
12 .   I M NOT ROUGH
	   (Title Code: 390055591)
13 .   JAZZ LIPS
	   (Title Code: 400005785)
14 .   JUST FOR A THRILL
	   (Title Code: 400033147)
15 .   KING OF THE ZULUS
	   (Title Code: 410011017)
16 .   KNEE DROPS
	   (Title Code: 410016147)
17 .   LET S GET HAPPY TOGETHER
	   (Title Code: 420024851)
18 .   LONESOME BLUES
	   (Title Code: 420067029)
19 .   MAD DOG
	   (Title Code: 430002016)
20 .   MY HEART WILL ALWAYS LEAD ME
	   (Title Code: 430119552)
21 .   MY SWEET LOVIN MAN
	   (Title Code: 430134062)
22 .   ONCE IN A WHILE
	   (Title Code: 450257580)
23 .   PAPA DIP
	   (Title Code: 460006288)
24 .   PERDIDO STREET BLUES
	   (Title Code: 460032553)
25 .   REWIND
	   (Title Code: 480416664)
26 .   SATCHEL MOUTH SWING
	   (Title Code: 490013982)
27 .   SKIT DAT DE DAT
	   (Title Code: 490075255)
28 .   STRUTTIN WITH SOME BARBECUE
	   (Title Code: 490153429)
29 .   STRUTTIN WITH SOME BARBECUE
	   (Title Code: 490153438)
30 .   SWEET LIPS
	   (Title Code: 490174291)
31 .   TEARS
	   (Title Code: 500250697)
32 .   TOMORROW NIGHT
	   (Title Code: 500096006)
33 .   TOO TGHT BLUES
	   (Title Code: 500269025)
34 .   TWO DEUCES
	   (Title Code: 500131333)
35 .   WHEN I WENT BACK HOME
	   (Title Code: 530052738)
36 .   WHERE WERE YOU LAST NIGHT
	   (Title Code: 530068758)
37 .   YOU RUN YOUR MOUTH ILL RU
	   (Title Code: 550031339)
38 .   YOURE NEXT
	   (Title Code: 550042818)
Kind regards,
Bill.




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