[Dixielandjazz] Mickey Mouse and Cartoon Music

[Marek Boym]

CONDON HATED BIG BANDS.  THE MOST HE WOULD CONCEDE WAS TAHT "PERAPS
THERE WAS ROOM FOR BIG BAND MUSIC, PREFERABLY WHERE HE WAS NOT"
(quoting from memory).
Cheers,
Marek

On 13/03/07, Robert S. Ringwald <robert at ringwald.com> wrote:
>  In the States, to call music Mickey Mouse, is a put down.  It means very
> simple, corny music as played by some of the dance bands of the 30s and 40s.
>
> In my opinion, calling great Jazz "Cartoon music" is an equal put down.
>
> One problem we may be having here on DJML is calling music that was used as
> background music for cartoons, or music that sounds as if it could have been
> used for cartoons, "Cartoon music."  To me this is offensive to Jazz
> musicians and fans.
>
> It may be music that was used in Cartoons, but it is not "Cartoon music."
>
> IMHO, this is just a question of semantics and not worth arguing about.
>
> However, Steve Barbone wrote:
>
> (snip)
> Guys like Eddie Condon would have said no and reminded us that jazz in the
> 1920s/30s was popularly associated with Whiteman, Gershwin and Irving
> Berlin. and that the Bratislava Band was playing popular music.
> (snip)
>
> To intimate that Eddie Condon would have said that the Bratislava Band was
> playing popular music is ridiculous.
>
> Let me qualify my statement by saying that I only heard one fabulous cut
> from the band.  That one was certainly not pop music of any era.
>
> Steve also wrote:
>
> (snip)
> Perhaps that kind of music in the "jazz age", as compared to the real jazz
> of the originators, (Oliver, Bolden, Armstrong, Bechet et al) is more like
> what Kenny G and his clones play today, compared to the real jazz of this
> and/or any other era?
> (snip)
>
> Unless I am badly mistaking Steve's meaning here, to say that the music
> played by the Bratislava Band to Jazz is like comparing Kenny G's music to
> real Jazz, is incomprehensible.
>
> I must be misunderstanding Steve's meaning.  If so, so are a lot of other
> List members, judging by the response both on and off list.
>
>
> --Bob Ringwald K6YBV
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