[Dixielandjazz] Harlem Jazz? was Cartoon music of theBratislavaHot Serenaders

[Ron L]

When we hear a band like the BHS and read appellations such as "Mickey
Mouse" and "Cartoon Music",  I think we have to stop and ask ourselves why
these fine musicians, and I think all will agree that they were playing
their instruments well, soloing ably, etc, chose to play this music.  They
are far removed geographically from its place of origin.  They are fairly
far removed culturally, I think it is safe to say, and obviously, they are
far removed from the music chronologically.   When I pondered these
questions, I am drawn to a couple of conclusions.  One is that the music
speaks to them (they like it) and we have no right to belittle or denigrate
because our opinion is different.  The other conclusion that I reach is that
the music has value in and of itself.  And again, we have no right to
belittle it because of a difference of opinion.  

I personally found their sound delightful.  I was pleased with the execution
and presentation of the material.  I would go to see/hear them if I could
and know that I would enjoy myself immensely.

Ron L

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:dixielandjazz-bounces at ml.islandnet.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
Ringwald
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 11:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Harlem Jazz? was Cartoon music of
theBratislavaHot Serenaders

 Steve Barbone wrote:

 > "Robert S. Ringwald" <robert at ringwald.com>
>
>> Hey Bill,
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>> Please don't call it Cartoon Music.  It is great, Hot Harlem Jazz.
>
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> Hi Bob:
>
> Do you mean Haarlem as in The Netherlands?


Of course not.


> I can't recall any bands in
> Harlem NYC playing as Mickey Mouse as that.



1.  I don't think you were in Harlem in the 20s.

2.  It was not at all mickey mouse.  It is something that the Night hawks 
would play as really Hot jazz.


>
> Seriously, though, the Bratislave musicians are excellent. The band is 
> well
> arranged. BUT, Is it jazz?
>
> Guys like Eddie Condon would have said no and reminded us that jazz in the
> 1920s/30s was popularly associated with Whiteman, Gershwin and Irving
> Berlin. and that the Bratislava Band was playing popular music.



As I said, they were playing the Hot Harlem Jazz of the late 20s and early 
30s.


>
> Perhaps that kind of music in the "jazz age", as compared to the real jazz
> of the originators, (Oliver, Bolden, Armstrong, Bechet et al) is more like
> what Kenny G and his clones play today, compared to the real jazz of this
> and/or any other era?
>



Sorry Steve, I have to respectfully say that you are all wet.

--Bob Ringwald



> Cheers,
> Steve Barbone
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