[Dixielandjazz] Kid Ory

[Stan Brager]

Dick;

In his book "Classic Jazz", Floyd Levin devotes pages 14-24 to the story of
these Ory recordings. He states without reservation that they were made in
June, 1921 at the Nordskog Santa Monica studios. The recordings were the
work of the Spikes Brothers who wanted to produce their own recordings for
Los Angeles' black community. They created the "Sunshine" label and
contracted with Nordskog to record the Ory band and produce 5000 records for
Sunshine.

There were several wax masters made that afternoon. These masters were sent
to Arto Pressing Company in Orange, New Jersey. However, several masters
were destroyed by the heat traveling though the desert. "Ory's Creole
Trombone" master was cracked. Still it did get pressed. But the Nordskog
label was placed on the recordings which credited the band as "The Seven
Pods of Pepper".

The Spikes brothers placed their own "Sunshine Records" label over the
Nordskog label. Their label credited the artists as "Ory's Sunshine
Orchestra".

While the entire process is shrouded in the fog of time, Floyd was convinced
that the sessions were recorded in 1921. Other facts regarding the labeling
was somewhat controversial with many individuals giving differing accounts.

Vic Bellerty who wrote the liner notes for the ASV Living Era CD "Ory's
Creole Trombone" states that there is evidence that these Sunshine/Nordskog
recordings were made in 1922.

Stan
Stan Brager
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Broadie" <rbroadie at dc.rr.com>
To: "Mike Meddings" <mike at doctorjazz.freeserve.co.uk>
Cc: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 11:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Kid Ory


> I would champion Floyd as a most diligent researcher, so disagree with
Allan
> Sutton.  Of course my opinion is biased, prejudiced, pig-headed and
> obstinate but otherwise totally objective.   Dick Broadie
>
> 5 Controversy has swirled for years around the date and location of the
> Sunshine session, with several accounts making colorful but
unsubstantiated
> claims that the recordings were made in Nordskog's living room in 1921.
The
> consensus among careful researchers, however, is that the sides were cut
in
> Nordskog's Santa Monica studio in or around June 1922.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Meddings" <mike at doctorjazz.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: "Dick Broadie" <rbroadie at dc.rr.com>
> Cc: <dixielandjazz at ml.islandnet.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 4:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dixielandjazz] Kid Ory
>
>
> Hello Brian,
>
> Please see the article by Allan Sutton at:
>
> http://www.mainspringpress.com/california.html
>
> and scroll down to the bottom of the page and read note 5 in the
References
> section.
>
> Musically yours.
>
> Mike.
>   Mike
>   Yes, I agree. But what intrigues me is why did a respected authority
like
> Levin insist it was 1921? Even if he was wrong there must have been
> "evidence" to persuade him.
>   Brian
>
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