[Dixielandjazz] Doodle tonguing ??

[Craig I. Johnson]

Think I've heard this term before and can't argue that McChesney may 
have written it
that way, but I think the original term for that was "double-tongueing". 
(there's also
"triple tonguing" -- in which doouble tonguing is using the tongue and 
back of the mouth (Pallete?)
alternately to produce a quick pair of notes using the sylables "tu-ku" 
as in
tu-ku-tu-ku-tu-ku-tu-ku for 8 fast notes in a row and triple tongueing 
is tu-tu-ku, tu-tu-ku
to turn out 2 sequential triplets. Standard in classic trumpet teaching 
any way.
This takes constant practice.- easy on the same note, -- a bitch when 
trying to
coordinate the fingers and these mouth contortions at high speed.(on 
trumpet)
I would think even harder on slide(!)  trombone.

As Yogi Berra might say: "If that's not it then it must be something 
else that's the same."

Craig  (I don't double  tongue anymore since I got my upper plate) Johnson


Dave Dustin wrote:

>Criss, it's not how many notes, it's the right notes.  But if you want
>to try selling trombone by the pound, Bob McChesney has published a
>great resource (book plus CD) on doodle-tonguing.  ("Doodle Etudes for
>Trombone"?)  You can find it through Google.  If you can master that you
>too can have perfect intonation and articulation of 8-bar 32nd note
>riffs like pure "modern jazz" trombonists McChesney, Bill Watrous, and
>Conrad Herwig, et al.  I've been making tremendous progress: I figure in
>about 20 more years I'll just about have it down.  Course it would help
>if I could figure out how to doodle AND get up and down scales at the
>same time.  (Why does it all have to be so hard?)
> 
>I listen awestruck to these spectacular modern trombonists doodle
>crisply through their lines -- not that I can recognize any songs. And
>then I come back to Jack Teagarden, who may or may not have
>doodle-tongued (I don't honestly know, but he sure had perfect lip
>control).  I KNOW I'd give my left leg to sound even halfway like him
>and not the best doodler emerging from Julliard, Berklee or North Texas
>today.  (May Jack rest in peace.)
> 
>David Dustin
> 
>
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